Has TA posted a pic of the new heads showing the water passage? The later 3800 v6 heads had a bridge in the water passage on the end of the heads next to the combustion chamber. I assume Buick made changes to the casting cores over the years to include this rib to help fight head gasket failure due to the cylinder not being supported at the top, and the combustion chamber not being supported at the end.??????
Hey Derek, You really want someone to build a nasty SBB Stroker!. I have seen you post it a bout it a lot on the forum. I want to, trust me. Money and time are my vices. Mainly the lack of free time in the garage. I've got the 71 BBB Skylark to finish. Then if money and time align I think a Riv or a 66 or 67 Skylark would be a cool platform for a Turboed Stroker Buick Build. Not sure I need the girdle though. The Nascar take out rods are just a no brainer. Not sure I want more than 650 or so horse out of a Turbo SBB set up. Unless I made a race only set up. For street use though if the next build was still more street than strip you get to a point that you cant put all the power down effectively. It would suck to make 800 HP and get spanked from a stoplight launch to 60 MPH by a less powerful vehicle that is dialed in and using the power more effectively. Its kind of like the Hellcat vs the new ZLI currently. The ZLI makes less power for sure, it puts it down better and it shows all across the board. I'm sure ford and dodge will up the performance to beat the ZL1. Really Dodge may have already with the Demon, at least in a straight line blast. That is a different subject, just using an example of why tons of power that cant be utilized is not as fun as it sounds to me. Track car tubbed with huge 18 inch wide slicks a cage, one seat, a tach, transbrake and some fiberglass or carbon fiber body parts with the build you have in mind, that would ruffle some feathers at any local drag strip. Again will see when the money is right and I have the time to build it right.
Its not so much that, your other post you mentioned building a Tomahawk, I was just trying to save you some of these, $$$$$; "I guess when I get return on some of my investments and have some serious coin I'll have to upgrade to a Tomahawk block and some seriously worked stage 2 heads or just buy some Wildcats to replace the 462 Girdled block that just has TA stage 1 SE heads. Crazy that type of set up used to be close to the best you could do with a BBB." Nice Rods Mark, Molnar does nice work. Glad to see some serious parts for the sbb 350 underdog! Can't wait to see how people use them! Derek
Derek, Your missing a golden marketing opportunity. Offer us the NASCAR rods machined for the 350. Maybe a crank kit or full rotating assy.
How can I offer something I don't have and don't want to offer? Not to mention I don't have the time to "market" anything. Go ahead Steve, add that to your store with my blessing. Derek
Thanks Justin, I guess I'm gonna have to eventually put 'em inside the block, almost too nice to hide 'em
Another question: Being the Molnar rods are a tad shorter than stock, when I find out what bore size I need for pistons, do I order the pin height to compensate, and bring the piston to zero deck? Is pin height and compression distance describing the same thing?
The first step would be having the block squared off so both decks are equal and perpendicular to the mains. Then measure the actual deck height, and order the positions with the pin height (compression distance same thing) so that you get zero deck. Specify your dish to get the compression you want and your good to go. Your head gasket thickness will be the quench distance once you swap on the alum heads. My approach is to only bore the cylinders as much as needed, others prefer to run the max bore.
I had mentioned this before, but he didn't seem interested. Oh well. How cool would it be to have a crank/rod 'stroker kit' ?
Good marketing idea, it's been talked about several times. Tough to justify either piling up the cores or keeping finished kits around unless you were selling the entire rotator for a premium price and I don't see that happening here. It's a gift to find a machinist or enthusiast willing to do light mods to make this stuff work already at a price equivalent to a stock rebuild sourced locally. I suppose one would have to figure out what they need to make $$$ to decide if it's worth keeping one ready to ship.
Dereks got a machinist friend who can do everything except cut the crank if I remember right. If someone was wanting a stroker kit this I'll bet he could help out.
The problem would be sourcing the crankshafts, its not like a sbc that you can buy a stroker crank for less than $200 shipped. If in someone were to do this they would have to have a pile of sbb 350s laying around, the only one I can think of with that many sbb 350 engines is Sean. The problem with that is he is in Canada and he doesn't believe in stroking the sbb 350. That is why I try my best to advise the people that want to build an awesome sbb stroker. Shipping their crank here and then back would add more $$ than most sbb 350 engine builders want to or have in the budget to spend and not much local interest here either. Maybe if the white whale aluminum heads are ever available, I may have a run of billet cranks made to offer as a sbb stroker rotating assembly? But until then I don't see to many people with very much interest in spending much $$ on a sbb 350 except for maybe Sean but again, he doesn't believe in stroking the sbb 350. Derek
anybody got a 50% off coupon or 2 for 1 deal for the Alu Heads ? lol to much on my $ plate right now for the alu heads...damn it
