That's what Autozone told me today when I ordered one. By luck he had one in stock. That filter fits AMC motors as well as some others........seems to me like they only want sell the fastest moving sizes. I guess Buick models aren't important to AC/Delco. But they have Ford and Mopar sizes.
AC Delco dropping the #24 oil filter I have connections with AC Delco and I think I'm going to buy two or three cases this week, AL.
This person's opinions about oil filters are often quoted. Notice the statement that he makes; In reality, I am an Electrical Engineer with no qualifications in the area of filtration analysis. He also uses the word, "seems" and "appears" often. While he might be 100 % correct, I'd like an opinion from an expert in the subject.
Steve, Jeg's carries the System 1 oil filter, for the big blocks you'll need the short one Part# 888-312361BP--$119.99 You should pick-up the O-ring kit for a spare Part#888-100000,$11.99 and you'll be in business. When I bought mine from Summit over 10 years ago I paid $79.00!! Man---Inflation Huh??????
Oil Filters Kenny, I have replaced my oil pump housing to use the longer oil filter, does Summit still sell the long filter? AL.
AL, Are you talking about the System1 filter? Jegs sells the long one and short one. I don't think the long one will fit on the 455. It hits the chassis or idler arm where it bolts to the frame.
Oil Filters I have changed my oil filter housing and it angles more torwards the front of the car. Still a problem? AL.
I'm not sure. The tall filter is 5 7/8" long, and a little bigger in diameter than a PF-24. Measure and see if it will fit.
Al, I don't think Summit carries it anymore but Jegs does. Yes they have the long one.I think it is $129.99?
Oil Filters Thanks Guys!!! The measurment you gave me, did that include the hex nut at the end of the filter? Thanks AL. :beer
I was a member of the SDML when Russ did these tests and posted the results. Aside from being an Electrical Engineer he is also a drag racer. I am not sure what his current status is but he had a fairly quick little turbo dodge. I'm sure most of you know the importance of oil filtration for turbo engines. That being said, you are 100% correct. He is not a professional oil filter analyzer. If you do find anything posted by a professional then I hope you will be able to post the data for all of us to see. Oh yeah. I almost forgot to mention. Russ's words on that website were chosen carefully to avoid any legal hassels. Thanks.
So if I'm reading this thread correctly the long sys. 1 filter will not fit a 455 in a skylark with out mods. The short one fits perfectly BUT nobody can find one Rick
You can get both long and short filter from Jegs catalog. The long one wouldn't fit on my 70 Stage1 because it would hit the frame and lower hose. The long one will fit on a 350 though. The 350 sits further back in the engine bay than the 455. The short one is very close to being the same size as a PF-24.
There have been other discussions on this subject - http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25234&highlight=mobil+oil+filter I like what Larry has to say about the System 1 filter. I can't get past the "you get what you pay for" phrase. A dozen oil changes using a more expensive filter like the Mobil filter would pay for the System 1 filter I have been happy with the Mobil M1-203 ($10) for my 455s. It is heavier and I believe it is also longer than the PF-24 - and fits on my GS and Estate Wagon. I have always asked for the longer version of the same filter at the parts stores for all my vehicles. It used to be the parts guys knew this info off the top of their heads. Didn't it use to be that there was the "1/2 quart" filter or the "1 quart" filter for the basic chevy engines? That is how I remember them asking me when I bought one of my first filters for my Chevelle - (it helps that the parts guy owned a stockcar and I asked him which one he used! Long one of course!) I am using a Mobil filter on my '01 Impala (3.4L) that is longer than the original. I believe if you ask the right person at the parts store you can get a technical manual that will give some specs of the filters such as dimensions, the micron size (smallest particle that will still flow through the filter media - 10 micron is larger and not as good as a 5 micron filter), bypass valve, etc. I did this with Baldwin filters when I was farming. We had engines that ran twice their expected life and we never had an oil related engine failure. We used Mobil oil and Baldwin filters. You can then find the "long" version of the original filter by making technical comparisons in the manual. When I was buying Baldwin, I used B39 on the 455. It was short but felt heavier like the Mobil filter I now use because Baldwin is not available in our area. Baldwin had a good reputation - again didn't cost $1.99 per filter which somehow made me feel better. I can't argue with the "keep your GM all GM" except that I never really believed the General has it in mind that they want everything to last forever like I hope my Buick will. I kind of figured they want the thing to wear out after about 100,000 miles so I would come back for another. Isn't this called "designed obsolescence?" Therefore the aftermarket stuff that cost a little more seemed to help me protect my investment with a little more concern than the cooporate head that needs to be able to keep selling cars.
