How many here like rap music?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Captain Mark, Nov 7, 2002.

  1. Captain Mark

    Captain Mark Well-Known Member

  2. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear

    I saw an interview with Ozzy Osbourne talking about the music industry in the 70's.
    He stated that back then when a label signed you they essentially gave you a year to put an album together.
    They gave you a room and anything you needed. Just play around and experiment and come up with an album, take your time.
    Thats why Led Zepplin's music and other bands music of the time, actually sounds like it was "composed" with a great deal of thought going into it.
    Now it's crank out songs and throw them out there.
     
  3. Madcat455

    Madcat455 Need..more... AMMO!!!

    Sad to say

    AS long as we have wannabe gangsters in downtown dealing drugs and shooting eachother there is going to be cRap muisc.... It seems to feed this kind of lifestyle.


    The older stuff I can still stand, but all the new stuff is crap... plain and simple. The only reason it is listned to is cause these little ricer boys, wanna be's, enjoy being different and highly visible. And just like the rap lyrics... totally FAKE.

    I allways like it when a rapper talks about growing up in the ghetto.... I mean... How bad can the streets of beverly hills really be :Do No:

    RAP... uhh no thanks.. I'd like something stronger.
     
  4. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Re: Sad to say


    :beer So true. So, so true, but, even with millions these idiots still can't seem to stay alive or out of jail. :error:
     
  5. Greg Schmelzer

    Greg Schmelzer What are you looking at?!

     
  6. OLDS442GM

    OLDS442GM Going Fast With Class!

    I think that this thread required a voting poll....It would be alot easier to view that way...this is already getting too big :TU:

    Larry :TU:
     
  7. white72gs455

    white72gs455 Going Fast With Class!!!

    :gt: I don't mind it if I can't hear it!:Dou:
     
  8. anti-chevy II

    anti-chevy II beelzebub

    :blast: rap
    :blast: hip hop
    :blast: new rock (disturbed, korn, limp bizket, an all that kind of crap)
    :blast: GAP punk( I HATE FAKE PUNK [ green day, 311, blink182])

    Im only 22.
    I like most Rock and Hard Rock that was made up to the early 80's.
    REAL heavy metal like Slayer, SOD, MOD, Venom, (80's) Metallica, Deicide, Obituary,Cannibal Corpse, ect. KMFDM (is cool to there more TECHNO/Metal)
    REAL Punk like Black flag, the Dead Kennedys, Minor threat, DRI, TSOL, The Misfits, The Exploted, ECT.
    There is very little new rock/hard rock that I like, VERY LITTLE

    as KMFDM Once said "RAP SUCKS!"
     
  9. RACEBUICKS

    RACEBUICKS Guest

    The only RAP I want to hear as I drive down the street is the one coming from my 535 cubes thru the 3.5 inch mandrel bent exhaust..............:beer :TU:
     
  10. lostGS

    lostGS Well-Known Member

    Amen
     
  11. '71buickg.s.

    '71buickg.s. a dark and stormy night..

    I (josh) dont care much for rap except eminem and jay-z they have a lot of skill but i still like 'oldies' bands like the beatles and the beach boys zz top to name a few. im also into punk rock like good charlotte, nfg, jimmy eat world and disturbed what is so bad about rap? just think og it as a poem w/ a beat to it!
     
  12. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    This is an interesting thread.

    I graduated high school in 1990. Rap to me was Ton Loc and a few others. Never really liked it then except for a few novelty tunes like "Bust a Move". Public Enemy was the mouthpiece for the angry Blacks out there. They were provocative and had something to say, and White people were scared.

    Then came Ice T with his Body Count group and "Cop Killer". People were up in arms when it came out. They wanted it banned, etc.

    The irony is that, in retrospect, all the mainstream rap from back then is harmless pop. The more provocative stuff is smart. But now we have Gangsta Rap.

    GR is commercialized rap at its worst. It's "corporate rock" just like the boy bands or country music. It's a sweatshop of producers who look for vehicles to portray their vision. There is always something new before it gets old. And now there's the trend of "Mos' Def featuring Sum Yung Guy." EVERYTHING is "featuring" someone I've never heard, but hopefully it's a springboard for bigger and more individual success.

    But what is success? Someone can sell 16 million of something, but what does that mean? Not a whole lot. It doesn't mean they're good. All it means is that there was a good marketing push and that there is a great segment of the population that is mindless when it comes to music. When something new comes around, they will forget the old. If it's the beat that moves your booty, chances are you are not a music aficcianado (sp?).

    The way I see it, any person who has an entourage is not worth listening to. Rap is all about self-importance. They are the ones who created this atmosphere for themselves. I can understand this since a large segment of the Black population is poor and wants to achieve some kind of success; any semblence of wealth is a good thing in these communities.

    I go to a school with a lot of 24 year-olds. They don't know Zeppelin, etc. That's ok. But they know all the hip-hop out there. That's what's been commercialized for them, so that's what they know. They don't see color, which is good, but they don't notice the vulgarity either. But I think Linkin Park sucks too, so bad taste covers all spectrums in music these days. But back in your day, you may have liked REO or Grand Funk, but I wouldn't say they were the epitome of great music either. I do think there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in rap, but I don't keep track of it. I sometimes hear something that catches my ear, but in the end it's all that commercialized stuff because it satisfies the lowest common denominator in me, much like Brittney.

    Some people have expressed that Will Smith is ok in their book, but I am not so sure. To me, he's just an excuse for crackers like us to think that we really are not as racist as we really are. Will is "safe" for us. That's the role he plays. Not a judgement for anyone here; just an observation.

    To end this drivel of mine, I have a little theory on this. I don't know if it is true, but it's an interesting thought (at least I think so). I think Rap music has ended up being very detrimental to Black society. The Black community is being held up by a bunch of thugs. On one hand, Blacks now have achieved the fame and financial standing that they could only dream about not too long ago. On the other hand, it seems like thugs in the community learned how to make money - by selling drugs - and have used that money and, hence, power to buy fame. And since most people (this includes Blacks as well as Whites) are afraid of this subculture of commercialized violence, they leave them alone because they're scared. Basically, America is being held hostage by a bunch of thugs!
     

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