Here's what they could do about the high cost of gas......

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by nailheadina67, May 22, 2007.

  1. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    No offense to the SUV drivers who are V8 members......I'm likely going to FRY for posting this but here goes........:Dou:

    Tonight on the news they said for people with incomes above about $35,000, the high price of gas is not an issue. But for those with incomes below that, it is causing a major hardship. Tell us something we don't know. :rolleyes:

    They also said those same people with the higher incomes really like their GAS GUZZLING suv's.......the same vehicles whose popularity is the core reason why gas consumption in this country has skyrocketed, making an excuse for the big oil companies to rip us off by the gallon more and more with each new passing day.

    Frankly, I wouldn't mind having to pay a GAS GUZZLER TAX of maybe a buck or two per gallon to fill up the Riv......as long as I was rewarded when I fill up my daily drivers, that both get good mileage, by paying a reasonable price for gas. ($2 a gallon I consider reasonable)

    Why should people who drive sensible cars that get good gas mileage have to suffer as a result of people who are making gluttens of themselves using gas like crazy driving excessive vehicles with no practical purpose that have created this problem? Now I don't mean work trucks......I'm talking about SOCCER MOMS driving the Hummer just to take the kids to soccer practice. You don't need to drive a huge gas guzzling truck around just for transportation like everyone who can afford it seems to be doing lately.

    Yeah, it's a free country, but I don't think "freedom" means being able to waste resources at the expense of everyone else. I'm sick of spending all my extra money on gas for the DD's to the point I can no longer afford to drive the Riv any further than around the block! I'm really starting to miss the long trips to National meets that have become so expensive. :rant:

    ......I know some people here will strongly disagree with this so I'll be hiding under my desk for a while. :pp
     
  2. Stage1 Jeff

    Stage1 Jeff Guest

    I would say apply this "tax" only to the purchasers of new SUV's
    not to owners of older ones. my daily driver 89 suburban is averaging 18mpg around town
    taking gasoline off as a tradable commodity could be an option,or a price freeze based on the average as of jan 1st '07,till refinery"maintenance" could be completed
     
  3. justalark

    justalark Silver Level contributor

    Do you think if everyone in the US would cut their gas consumption by 1/2, the oil companies would stop finding excuses to raise prices?
    Conservation is good but at this pont what we need is some leadership and 'nads in Congress.
    SOLUTION:
    1.)Impose a windfall profit tax (a big one) on all oil companies.
    2.) Allow those companies to partially off-set the taxes only by construction of new refineries. These would have to be new refineries not replacing older ones.
    3.) Free-up the Federal regulations and restrictions holding back the construction of new nuclear power plants.

    I have sent these ideas to my senators and congressman and have received one senatorial "blah blah" answer.:Dou:
     
  4. bignastyGS

    bignastyGS Maggot pilot

    My 95 Grand Cherokee pulls 23 mpg highway and 19-20 city. We live out in the boonies and 4wd is a must for my wife to travel to work. It costs 55-60 per week for her to drive 30 miles 1 way for 6 days a week. I am being hit bad by the greed of the oil companies and have bought a 90 Escort that gets 37 mpg for me to go to work in. A totally unsafe vehicle to drive on I-80,but I wont make my wife drive one as she means more to me than a few bucks worth of gas. I have a 650 a month house payment and the gas is killing us. I have to allot 175-180 for 2 weeks gas. I say we need to kick George Bush's ass out and get someone who gives a **** about our country for a change..
     
  5. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    I'm glad that I didn't have to say that........:beer:
     
  6. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    The only contender I have seen and heard recently that really gives a crap about "US" , the Constitution and our great country,is Congressman Ron Paul of Texas-Republican. But he talks pure sense,so I would be quite sure that the "electors" WON'T put him in office.
     
  7. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    the suv deal is stupid

    so even though the suvs get better gas milage then most small cars got 15 years ago we need to pay more just because we have a truck or suv how has demand increased when a suv gets better mpg than most fwds did when it wasnt such a demand come on
     
  8. Stage1 Jeff

    Stage1 Jeff Guest

    for God's sake, PLEASE, not this candidate :error: :Dou:
     
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  9. austingta

    austingta Well-Known Member

    I agree we should get rid of The Shrub and everyone like him, but the facts are that gasoline consumption is down in this country, and oil prices are $11.00 per barrel lower than their record high last year, and the "reason" given for these obscene prices is refineries are down for maintenance.

    Planned maintenance if you ask me.

    The oil companies are colluding with each other and financially raping the average consumer, and laughing about it to each other at their country clubs.
     
  10. monkeyy337

    monkeyy337 monkeyy337

    I'm afraid the price of gasoline for vehicles won't compare to the price increases for everything that is moved by something that uses fuel. Everything we eat, drink, need, or enjoy, is moved by something that uses fuel of some sort. I only wish I knew the answer to fix the problem. :confused:
     
  11. GStage1

    GStage1 Always looking for parts!

    Very simple.........provide an alternative to oil and when you have competition, the consumers are better in the long run.....if it is ethanol, hydrogen or something else.....until you have a choice...this will continue to be an oil/petroleum based economy....domestically and globally.
     
  12. alan

    alan High-tech Dinosaur

    SUV gas tax - Most SUVs do get better milage than you'd think. How would you regulate it anyway? :Do No:

    Windfall profit tax - If you were taxed at 80% for eveything you made over (insert dollar amout here) how much would you work above that amount? Gas prices would probably go UP because production would be limited.


    Competition from alternative fuels is probably the best way.

    Or everybody buy oil stocks and get some money back!!!! :laugh: :dollar:
     
  13. Stage1 Jeff

    Stage1 Jeff Guest

    and they always "plan" these maintenance times at this time of year
     
  14. 72staged

    72staged Well-Known Member

    Thank You George and Alan! I was starting to get anxious. BTW, a good friend of mine just bought 2 farms in Iowa (Albia). A few hundred acres. He's learning how to grow corn!
     
  15. tlivingd

    tlivingd BIG BLOCK, THE ANTI PRIUS

    the problem is partly the technology isn't there to create systems and infrastructure to create those alternative fuels. not to mention our big 3 are having enough trouble staying afloat let alone to dump a lot of money into R&D for these new fuel systems. not to mention the marketing of them.
    how many people do you know that would buy a compressed hydrogen fuel car? people think the fuel tanks are explosions waiting to happen. and thats not even looking at the infrastructure to support the hydrogen fuel. there is also the trouble of getting raw hydrogen. (I personally have no problem with hydrogen fuel systems)

    Brazil has it right with renewable ethanol made from sugar and they've had a lot of time to make it efficient (10+ years). we make enough corn and soy here to do the same sure it won't be as efficient right away but give it a few years and the plant would be the best R&D platform.

    but then the people complain that the corn and such that is good for 3rd world countries but now is too expensive to go there. sigh.

    there is no good answer.
     
  16. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    $ 3 a gallon here. AND I'M BETWEEN 2 REFINERIES (w/in 1 1/2 mi.). ONE OF WHICH LET 1,000,000 (yep, million) GALLONS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD!!!!!! How many of y'alls paprers print that everyday.No cute animals were hurt in this debacle. Just people. Oh yeah, and some of their pets..
    Ya think I should get a "sorry-we-got-sludge-in-yer-house" coupon?!??!?:confused: :spank: :moonu: :Dou: :blast: :rant: :af:
     
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  17. EEE

    EEE Straight out of lo-cash!

    They're all crooks.... and the president of the century is doing a heck of a job, as he likes to say it.

    Who killed the electric car
    http://imdb.com/title/tt0489037/
     
  18. custom

    custom Well-Known Member

    With all due respect it's this exact line of thinking that has resulted in many a classic car being sent to the crusher and attempts made to destroy the collector car hobby.
    The "no practical purpose" rationale could be applied to the majority of Buicks owned by all the members here.
     
  19. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    Nah, not the Buicks. They give roads claaassss....:laugh:

    Actually, What's the name of the group that seeks out i think $45 a yr. offset a persons energy consumption, puttin' it to use helping the enviornment???
     
  20. 70 gsconvt

    70 gsconvt Silver Level contributor

    Don't even get me started on this subject. Oil companies are raping the American people. Plain and simple. When the hurricane hit last year, prices skyrocketed. And their reason was that they incurred heavy damage in the Gulf and had to make repairs. In business, that's called an expense. I guess you don't make as much profit that year. But not here. They stick us with the bill. And when they see that we're willing to pay it, they just keep the prices high and rake in the money.

    Only a major/catastrophic change in our economy and attitudes towards our cars will stop these people. And unfortunately, they have enough oil in the ground to last another couple of hundred years.
     

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