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  1. tlivingd

    tlivingd BIG BLOCK, THE ANTI PRIUS


    WOW!!!. It continues. now it's affecting people inland... great.
    from that article and I didn't know this.

    For those who are closer to home.
    "Weve never used or purchased Simple Green cleaner [which contains 2-butoxyethanol]."
     
  2. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    Wow. I would like to say I can't believe what I am reading, but unfortunately I do believe the government and powerful corporations are capable of this type of behavior. How the hell do we stop this?
     
  3. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    If I said that, it would get my thread locked (think fore fathers). I'm STILL trying to locate a very interesting article about the cozy relationships that go world wide. Including the release of the Scotland Lockerbee(sp?) bomber who was "on his death bed"-who surprising is still alive and kicking 1 year later:af: , so BP could drill "over there"...:shock:
     
  4. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    Lockerbie families raise new questions over bomber
    Aug. 15, 2010, 7:21 p.m. CDT
    Associated Press

    LONDON (AP) The regrets of a cancer expert who assessed the only man ever convicted of the 1988 Lockerbie jetliner bombing have intensified the anger felt by victims' relatives over Scotland's decision to release the Libyan on compassionate grounds.

    Professor Karol Sikora and other experts had said Abdel Baset al-Megrahi probably had only three months to live when he was freed from a Scottish jail last August and allowed to return home to Libya. But one year later, Al-Megrahi, who is being treated for prostate cancer, is still alive.

    Sikora, one of three experts who assessed al-Megrahi's health for Libyan authorities, was quoted by Britain's Observer newspaper Sunday as saying he should have been more cautious about the chances of survival.

    "If I could go back in time, I would have probably been more vague and tried to emphasize the statistical chances and not hard fact," Sikora was quoted as saying.

    "In medicine we say 'Never say never and never say always,' because funny things happen. All you can do is give a statistical opinion," said Sikora, dean of the School of Medicine at Buckingham University, in central England.

    Scottish authorities deny that the opinions of Sikora and the other experts who advised Libya entered into the decision to release al-Megrahi, though families contend that the advice must have played a role.

    "It's obvious the whole thing was flawed," said Frank Duggan, president of the Victims of Pan Am Flight 103, an advocacy group that represents some of the families of those killed.

    Duggan said Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill had rejected a U.S. government request to commission an independent medical examination of al-Megrahi, and also has declined demands from families to publish in full the advice Scotland received from consultants.

    "The Scottish government should be embarrassed and the U.K. government should be embarrassed," said Duggan, a retired lawyer from Rehoboth, Delaware, who advises some bereaved families. "It's no surprise to us that these doubts are coming out."

    Al-Megrahi is the only person to have been jailed for the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 above the small Scottish town of Lockerbie, which killed 259 people mostly Americans onboard and 11 on the ground.

    He was convicted in 2001 and sentenced to serve at least 27 years in a Scottish prison, but released in August 2009 on compassionate grounds.

    A report made public by Scottish authorities shows the Scottish Prison Service's medical chief, Andrew Fraser, was advised by four specialists at the time of al-Megrahi's release. The report described the three-month prognosis for al-Megrahi as "reasonable," but confirmed that none of those consulted ruled out that al-Megrahi might live longer.

    Sikora said he was not taking responsibility for al-Megrahi's release. "No one asked me, 'Should we let him out?' All they said was, 'When do you think he will die?'" he was quoted as saying.

    Rev. John Mosey, from Worcestershire, England, whose daughter Helga, 19, died in the bombing, said it was wrong to criticize those who had assessed al-Megrahi.

    "The doctors in the case have been dragged through the mud, when really it is very difficult to assess how long someone will survive," he said. "It was a difficult decision to make and was made in good faith."

    Susan Cohen, of Cape May Court House, New Jersey, whose 20-year-old daughter, Theodora, died in the attack, said Sikora's comments were the latest insult to the victims' loved ones.

    "This is an added kick in the face and another example of them throwing rocks in the face of the families," Cohen said Sunday. "This whole thing is about business interests, money and making profits," she said, referring to allegations that oil giant BP pressured Scotland to free al-Megrahi so it could win access to Libyan oil reserves.

    MacAskill has denied BP had any role in the release of al-Megrahi. Former BP chief executive John Browne, who stepped down in 2007, said Saturday he held two meetings with Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi but never discussed the release of prisoners.

    BP has acknowledged that it lobbied the U.K. government as Britain and Libya were negotiating a prisoner transfer agreement known as a PTA in autumn 2007, but said it had not raised al-Megrahi's case. Al-Megrahi was not released under the deal, as he was freed on compassionate grounds rather than transferred to serve out his sentence.

    "The PTA happened after I left the company. I went to see Col. Gadhafi twice and I think I moved things forward, but there was no discussion about the PTA and no agreement for exploration made at that time," Browne said, speaking Saturday at the Edinburgh International Book Festival.

    Last week, four Democratic U.S. senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Chuck Schumer of New York and Bob Menendez and Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey sent a letter to Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond asking that al-Megrahi's full medical records be disclosed.

    "We've never seen that medical evidence. We now know from the prison doctor that the cancer experts were not absolute in their view that al-Megrahi only had three months to live, so there is a lot of confusion here," Annabel Goldie, a Conservative Party lawmaker in Scotland's Parliament, said Sunday.

    Duggan said Scottish authorities have repeatedly cited patients' confidentiality as their reason for not disclosing the records.

    Sikora told the Observer he remains certain al-Megrahi will die of cancer, "I suspect in the next few weeks. To tell the truth, I'll be quite glad because we can move on."
     
  5. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, almost half of the 9/11 "hijackers" have been found to be still alive in Saudi Arabia too. So much deception in this world.:rolleyes: Short of everyone in this country getting "educated" , made aware of what's really going on and major revolution, nothing is going to change. This is what I think of about the Bankers and corporations- "He who has the gold, rules" That's the Golden Rule . BP is going to be allowed to do what ever they want in the Gulf and no one is going to really be able to do a damn thing about it. I can't talk the wife into leaving this area for our health , so I am stuck here. For now. I damn sure will not be eating any seafood for quite a while.
     
  6. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    We are making the world safe for democracy? Strike that.
    We are making the world safe for commerce.

    This is the kind of power and corruption that makes this BP mess possible and allowed it to happen. I wish people would stop falling for all of the partisan distraction BS and watch what is really happening right in front of their face.
     
  7. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile, the Gulf of Mexico is severely polluted and the EPA won't do anything about it.
     
  8. ric

    ric Well-Known Member

  9. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    Holy freakin' cow! Are you kidding me?
     
  10. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

  11. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    :shock: OK guys this was in yesterdays paper. Even I couldn't take it all in at once. So I'll break it all down for y'all. This is from over 100 hours of testimony::shock:


    6 fateful missteps

    Several decisions, seemingly separate -- and one final mechanical meltdown -- combined to ignite the Deepwater Horizon disaster

    Sunday, September 05, 2010
    By David Hammer
    Staff writer

    A string of mistakes, first by people, then by a supposedly fail-safe machine, sealed the fate of 11 dead rig workers and led to the fouling of the Gulf and hundreds of miles of its coastline.

    More than 100 hours of testimony before a federal investigative panel, two dozen congressional hearings and several internal company reports have brought the genesis of the spill into sharp focus. The record shows there was no single fatal mistake or cut corner. Rather, five key human errors and a colossal mechanical failure combined to form a recipe for unprecedented disaster.

    The rig's malfunctioning blowout preventer ultimately failed, but it was only needed because of human errors. Those errors originated with a team of BP engineers in Houston who knew they had an especially tough well, one rig workers called "the Well from Hell."

    Despite the well's orneriness, the engineers repeatedly chose to take quicker, cheaper and ultimately more dangerous actions. Even when they acknowledged limited risks, they seemed to consider each danger in a vacuum, never thinking the combination of bad choices would add up to a total well blowout.

    Tens of thousands of offshore wells have been drilled without incident. Drill teams often face difficult conditions miles down in a hole, but they use a battery of tests and equipment to proceed safely. That's why the first time BP went with the less-than-safest option -- choosing a well structure with fewer barriers against kicks of gas -- nobody batted an eye.

    Plenty of wells have used a similar structure of metal tube linings. Halliburton, the cementing contractor, simply recommended more devices called centralizers to make that design safer. But the second misstep came when BP's engineering team ignored Halliburton.

    Again, that shouldn't have caused a panic: The British oil giant had another contractor on board the rig to test the well's integrity definitively once the cement was in place. But then a third money- and time-saving corner was cut: BP decided to send that contractor home 11 hours before the accident, without running the test.

    Rig officials might have been able to do without that test if they had correctly interpreted the readings from a subsequent pressure test. But expert testimony and documents suggest key error No. 4 occurred when rig officials erroneously viewed that test as a success.

    Maybe none of that would have led to a blowout, if BP hadn't made questionable decision No. 5: Replacing heavy drilling mud with light seawater in the milelong riser connecting rig to well, and in the top third of the hole itself, before setting a final plug.

    And lastly, removing that mud barrier, the principal defense against gas kicking to the surface, might not have been fatal if the rig's blowout preventer, the massive metal stack that shuts off the well in an emergency, had functioned properly. It did not.

    The Macondo well, in the Mississippi Canyon 50 miles southeast of Venice, vexed both the men who designed it and the ones who drilled it. The Transocean rig Marianas drilled a shallow portion of the well, but had to go back to a shipyard for hurricane repairs in November. In February, Transocean's Deepwater Horizon moved in to take its place.

    The troubles continued. Daily drilling reports show that on March 10, hydrocarbons flowed into the well in a sand layer several thousand feet above the oil reservoir and a piece of drill pipe got stuck. The pipe was never retrieved.

    Rig workers and engineers say they lost thousands of barrels of drilling mud during the process and don't know why. The heavy mud is a principal barrier against gas kicks and also helps keep drills lubricated and carries earthen shavings out of the way.

    The constant problems caused huge delays and extra expense, creating additional pressure on the workers and managers to finish the project quickly and cheaply. Documents show that the Deepwater Horizon had been scheduled to drill a different well 43 days before the accident. The Macondo well, budgeted by BP to cost $96 million, had cost at least $40 million more than that when it blew, records show.

    BP's Gulf drilling manager, David Sims, acknowledged in testimony that "every conversation, every decision has a cost factor." E-mail messages and reports by BP engineers in the weeks before the accident make reference to money or time savings as they debated methods for closing the well. In each case, they went the cheaper way.

    No. 1

    Fewer barriers to gas flow

    Five days before the accident, BP asked for government permission to change its well design three times in a span of 24 hours. Each request was immediately approved by the U.S. Interior Department, some within minutes.

    Independent engineers who have reviewed the design changes say they were baffling. They were questioned at BP too. An internal company document from mid-April acknowledged a single, long tube running through the center of the 13,000-foot well would leave a side space for hydrocarbons to shoot up, with only one seal to stop a blowout. Computer models raised questions about whether the design would cause a weak seal on the well's walls.

    Typical industry practice for exploration wells, according to numerous engineers, would be to run a short tube to line the bottom 1,500 feet of the hole. That liner would hook onto a bigger tube above it, which would tie back to the top of the well, creating an additional barrier blocking natural gas from flowing into the side space between the tubes. It also involved setting an extra plug in the center of the well.

    The gas that eventually blew out of the Macondo well either went up the center of the hole or up through a side space. Either way, the industry-endorsed method would have given the drillers one more barrier to slow or halt the gas's attack. A BP document shows that was also once the company's preferred method, though it would have cost as much as $10 million more.

    During the operation's final weeks, those cost concerns took over. On March 30, BP engineer Brian Morel, whose name is on the well design documents, wrote that "not running the tie-back saves a good deal of time/money."

    Then BP got a measure of safety affirmation. Halliburton ran a computer model April 15 that showed a good cement seal on the walls would be possible with the long central tube, as long as BP used 21 devices called centralizers to help the cement set. An internal BP document called it the "best economic case and well integrity case."

    It appears BP was determined to use a long tube in the middle because it would make future oil production operations easier. Often, oil companies drill exploratory wells, strike oil, fill the well with cement and then drill a new well to extract the oil. In this case, BP wanted to be able to plug the exploratory well without filling it in, abandoning it only temporarily so a production crew could tap into the hole Deepwater Horizon had already drilled.

    It's not uncommon to convert an exploration well to a production well, but it wasn't something workers on this rig were used to. That left many crew members in uncharted territory.

    # 2 tomorrow....:Dou:
     
  12. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    Step 2 not taken...


    No. 2

    Fewer centralizers

    to keep cement even

    Although BP engineers got confirmation from Halliburton that a long center tube could be safe, they weren't initially keen on spending the extra time and money to install more than six centralizers. The devices help keep the tubes centered in the hole as they telescope downward. If one tube isn't in the center, cement poured there will go to the wider side, leaving a weaker barrier on the other side.

    Jesse Gagliano, a Halliburton employee who worked in the same office with the BP engineers, warned his clients April 15 of the possibility. BP's Morel responded: "Hopefully the pipe stays centralized due to gravity."

    A worried Gagliano caught up to several members of BP's engineering team at their shared Houston offices. He persuaded Gregg Walz, the engineering team's new leader, that 21 centralizers were needed based on Halliburton computer models. Walz told John Guide, his counterpart in operations, "We need to honor the modeling."

    Sims, the new manager for several of BP's Gulf wells, agreed with Walz. The company had 15 additional centralizers sent to the rig the next morning. But then Guide found out the centralizers didn't have the right collars to keep them in place. Also, he complained in an e-mail that it would "take 10 hrs to install them." In the end, the 15 centralizers were not used.

    On April 18, Halliburton ran a new model of a cement job using fewer than seven centralizers. It showed a "severe risk of gas flow." But Gagliano didn't make a scene this time. He attached the report to an e-mail to his clients. Three different BP engineers later testified they never saw the warning, which was buried on page 18 of the report. Guide said he didn't read the report until after the accident.


    Even Gagliano never dreamed that two days later, the rig would go up in smoke and flames.

    He said he didn't try to stop the job because uneven cement "doesn't equal a blowout. My concern was ... having to do a remedial cement job."

    But that assumed BP would find out if there was a problem to remedy. After Guide went with the riskier cementing method, engineers Morel and Brett Cocales, who had seen Halliburton's models, shrugged it off.

    With me so far??????:af:


    "Who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine," Cocales wrote Morel. Morel responded that they could see whether Halliburton's models were right once they checked data on the actual cement barriers.

    That check was never done.
     
  13. r0ckstarr

    r0ckstarr Well-Known Member

    More interested in saving money and making money than actually doing it safely. I'm just surprised that they didn't make a bigger issue out of the final warnings that the guy was giving, and why they never checked the computer models. :Do No:
     
  14. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

  15. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    No. 3: No bond log to check cement integrity

    BP sent a crew from oil-field services firm Schlumberger to the rig two days before the accident to run various tests on the well. The company was paid about $10,000 to wait until the cement was set. It would get another $100,000 or so if the crew ran a cement bond log, the gold standard for testing cement integrity.

    Initially, when engineers decided to use the long central tube, they acknowledged a cement bond log would probably be needed.

    But because cement didn't escape when it was poured, BP sent Schlumberger home on April 20 at 11:15 a.m., without having run the test.

    Had it been run, the bond log might have found problems with the cement barriers, requiring a new cementing procedure that would have take at least a month, said Tom McFarland, a cementing consultant. Additional cost to BP: at least another $30 million.

    Again, by itself the decision was explainable. Cement bond logs aren't always necessary. But the skipped steps on a troublesome project were adding up.

    No. 4: Pressure test misinterpreted

    When BP executives toured the rig the afternoon of April 20, they found the drill team gathered in a shack, debating the results of the negative pressure test, which measures upward pressure from the shut-in well. A good test would mean the well was nearly complete.

    But 15 barrels of mud had leaked through a valve in the blowout preventer. That was odd. A few weeks earlier, a mechanic, Mike Williams, had reported that chunks of rubber from the valve came up in mud from the hole. He saw computer readings showing the drill pipe was moved while the valve was closed around it, and he believed that had damaged the rubber closure. But a supervisor dismissed it as normal wear and tear.

    Three hours before the accident, the drill team tried the pressure test again, this time instructing the worker in charge of the blowout preventer, Chris Pleasant, to mash the rubber valve against the pipe with more force. Little or no fluid escaped.

    Better. But still, the drill team observed high pressure readings. That was abnormal. BP executive Sims said the team members sounded "confused" after the second negative test, and he suggested that Transocean's top rig officer, Jimmy Harrell, help resolve the issue.

    Later, at dinner, one of the visitors, BP Vice President Patrick O'Bryan asked Harrell if everything was OK. He gave the thumbs-up. Guide talked to BP's well site leader, Robert Kaluza, and recalled that Kaluza, too, was "confused" by the pressure.

    Rig officials eventually ruled the test a success. But John Smith, an associate professor of petroleum engineering at LSU who was hired by federal investigators as an expert, testified that the rig officials misinterpreted the results.

    Smith also said the test itself may have been faulty. BP had paid for two doses of a viscous fluid for the test, and ordered contractors to use both at once. Smith said the abnormal quantity may have distorted the pressure readings.

    The mixing may have been yet another cost-cutting move. If the extra dose had gone unused, BP would have had to pay to transport it to shore and dump it as hazardous waste. Once poured in the hole, however, federal rules allowed it to simply be dumped overboard for free.
     
  16. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    No. 4: Pressure test misinterpreted

    When BP executives toured the rig the afternoon of April 20, they found the drill team gathered in a shack, debating the results of the negative pressure test, which measures upward pressure from the shut-in well. A good test would mean the well was nearly complete.

    But 15 barrels of mud had leaked through a valve in the blowout preventer. That was odd. A few weeks earlier, a mechanic, Mike Williams, had reported that chunks of rubber from the valve came up in mud from the hole. He saw computer readings showing the drill pipe was moved while the valve was closed around it, and he believed that had damaged the rubber closure. But a supervisor dismissed it as normal wear and tear.

    Three hours before the accident, the drill team tried the pressure test again, this time instructing the worker in charge of the blowout preventer, Chris Pleasant, to mash the rubber valve against the pipe with more force. Little or no fluid escaped.

    Better. But still, the drill team observed high pressure readings. That was abnormal. BP executive Sims said the team members sounded "confused" after the second negative test, and he suggested that Transocean's top rig officer, Jimmy Harrell, help resolve the issue.

    Later, at dinner, one of the visitors, BP Vice President Patrick O'Bryan asked Harrell if everything was OK. He gave the thumbs-up. Guide talked to BP's well site leader, Robert Kaluza, and recalled that Kaluza, too, was "confused" by the pressure.

    Rig officials eventually ruled the test a success. But John Smith, an associate professor of petroleum engineering at LSU who was hired by federal investigators as an expert, testified that the rig officials misinterpreted the results.

    Smith also said the test itself may have been faulty. BP had paid for two doses of a viscous fluid for the test, and ordered contractors to use both at once. Smith said the abnormal quantity may have distorted the pressure readings.

    The mixing may have been yet another cost-cutting move. If the extra dose had gone unused, BP would have had to pay to transport it to shore and dump it as hazardous waste. Once poured in the hole, however, federal rules allowed it to simply be dumped overboard for free.

    No. 5: Mud barrier removed early

    According to investigators' notes, Kaluza was confused by his bosses' directions in the hours before the accident. "They decided we should do displacement (of protective drilling mud with seawater) and the negative test together; I don't know why," Kaluza told investigators. "Maybe they were trying to save time. At the end of the well sometimes they think about speeding up."

    Smith, the LSU engineer, said rig workers thought they were all set after the negative test, which may explain why they missed signs of gas kicks starting 50 minutes before the first explosion.

    The crew was confident enough to take one more risky step before setting a final cement plug: replacing heavy drilling mud with seawater, which is 40 percent lighter and far less capable of holding down gas.
     
  17. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    Oh yeah , in case y'all don't know. The well has been killed as of 2 days ago......


    The oil still comes ashore.....
     
  18. ric

    ric Well-Known Member

  19. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

  20. Poppaluv

    Poppaluv I CALL WINNERS!!!

    No. 6: Blowout preventer failed

    In spite of all the shortcuts BP took, much of the disaster, particularly the leaking oil, could have been avoided if the blowout preventer had activated when power was lost.

    When Harrell, the top Transocean man on the rig, was concerned about the plans for April 20, he grumbled that the BOP's shear rams might have to save the day: "Well, I guess that's what we have those pinchers for."

    When two explosions rang out, at about 9:56 p.m., it was time for the pinchers. Pleasant hit a button on a control panel. Lights indicated he had sent a message a mile below the rig and sea, through optics and hydraulic lines, to disconnect the rig from the well. That would cause the blowout preventer to activate its shear rams, cut the drill pipe and seal the well.

    None of that happened. The well wasn't shut and the rig wasn't able to escape the fuel source for a fire that would rage for two days.

    Investigators wonder if two pipes, found side by side just above the blowout preventer, fouled up the works. There is only supposed to be one pipe, and the blowout preventer's slicing rams are designed to cut only one.

    But none of that explains why other parts of the blowout preventer never seemed to function, or why the emergency disconnect never activated. Pleasant testified that when he tried to intervene manually, he "had no hydraulics." The loss of three things -- power, hydraulics and communications -- is supposed to trip a "dead-man" switch and close in the well. It didn't.

    Rig officials knew all along the blowout preventer had some leaks, notably in the yellow control pod that receives messages from the rig. But they didn't think it mattered. BP and Transocean officials said they were familiar with a federal regulation stating that if "a BOP control station or pod ... does not function properly" the rig must "suspend further drilling operations" until it's fixed, but they didn't think the regulation applied in this case.

    BP's man in charge on the rig until April 16, Ronnie Sepulvado, said he reported the pod's problems to Guide and assumed Guide would tell the feds. He didn't. And another federal regulation requiring the blowout preventer to be recertified every five years was ignored. Deepwater Horizon's BOP had been in use for nearly 10 years and was never recertified. Getting it recertified would have required Transocean to take the rig out of use for months while the four-story stack was disassembled.

    It was one more corporate cost avoided. And a final precaution that could have erased a string of other missteps and spared an infinitely larger cost later.

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