Court .... speeding ticket how to win ... opinions

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by OHC JOE, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

    On way to court for a speeding ticket
    Hopefully cop doesn't show up
    There was two guys on bikes throws radar
    One walks out in Street way before I get to him and starts waving me over.
    Said doing 38 in a 25
    I was in the middle of the desert one side of the street was sand other side houses.
    Was thinking of says were is the other officer at if only one cop shows up or say I asked to see radar gun and it wasn't shown to me.
    Thanks
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Traffic court attorney, without one, your odds are not good. They know all the tricks to win. I hired one and it was the best money I have ever spent. Took almost a year, but it was dismissed.
     
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  3. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    Sounds like local cops. Around here all they want is the money and they will drop any points. When you go to court the cop usually takes you into another room and tells you thats how its going to be. Its a racket between the judge and the cops.
     
  4. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    Last time the Radar gun was calibrated?

    If the DA does not introduce evidence of the speed limit at this location, ask for the case to be dismissed for failure t0 prove an essential element of the offense charged. Typically this would be something like the applicable section of a city code.

    I would not ask any questions you listed.

    If an officer does not show, the DA will ask for a continuance.

    Think about what you will say if you take the witness stand? The DA may ask you how fast you contend you were going. IF your truthful testimony is anything over 25 mpg, you will be found guilty of that lesser included offense.

    Ask to plea to a non moving violation like improper equipment (mufflers too loud, etc.)

    Ask for a continuance to hire experienced legal counsel. You are not able to do what they can do.
     
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  5. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Its about revenue.

    Usually if ya pay it its' gone off the record after 6 months, maybe have to go to driving school for an evening. I got a ticket last year following a dude in a caddy at 94mph. Anything over 20 over up here is wreckless driving. The caddy dude was texting and driving but the cop showed up on the bridge with the GUN between us. That fast. He never saw the caddy. I laughed when I was talking to the cop. Brown County Sherriff on the Interstate. He wrote me the ticket for 82 in a 70. I told him I hadn't even been pulled over in 20 years. "Its your lucky day says he..." I was merely pacing the caddy from 1/2 mile back. Shot Happens. I just paid the ticket and it was like $200.00. I guess they were slow that day... no crack whores killin' gramma for herreron money, no gas station robberies..... Pay the ticket and walk away. Laugh at the system and be the wiser. Don't do 38 in the residential neighborhoods. MHO...

    BTW... when I got the ticket there was a printed receipt OFF THE RADAR GUN like a time slip at the track that said 94 in a 70 zone attached to his and my half of the ticket. It all had to get mailed in with a cheque. ws
     
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  6. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Sounds like in life it's just easier to pay the fine and move on. Even if you were not going 13mph over this time, we all have been going too fast some time that we didn't get caught for. I would think to hire an attorney would cost more than the 13mph fine would had been.

    Last time I got a ticket of near speed it was less than 200 bucks just to pay it and send it in. Here if you over pay the fine, they send you a check back for the overage, just don't cash it. The financial transactions isn't complete, never had the point's show up that way. But your area might be different
     
  7. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    Thirty years ago I would have said to get an attorney and let him/her use their expertise to get you off. Now I just say, "pay the ticket" and get on with your life. You admit you were speeding. Take the traffic school option if it's offered to keep the points off your license but, you'll still pay about the same amount as the fine.
     
  8. OHC JOE

    OHC JOE Mullet Mafia since 2020

    All good tips
    I'm a commercial driver so I need no points I haven't had any tickets in 20 years my self...
    Hopefully he doesn't show up
    We will see..
     
  9. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

    If you haven't been a blight on society ask for a prayer for judgement.Still pay the fine but no points.
    Everyone I know just hires an attorney though. Cost us $75 for my wife's attorney (plus the fine of course) and we got a letter one day saying it was reduced to improper equipment.
    A lot less stress than rolling the dice on a judge in a foul mood lol
     
  10. Smokey15

    Smokey15 So old that I use AARP bolts.

    Next time you plan on speeding, stop and pick up a dozen doughnuts first. And keep a $100 dollar bill taped to your drivers license.
    Your being a guy screws up unfastening the top two or three buttons of your shirt and batting your eyes. Any of these recommendations are bound to get results. Maybe just not necessarily the results you desire.
    I hope they are just after revenue and you can get by without the points.
     
  11. gsfred

    gsfred Founders Club Member

    In upstate NY the towns will usually plead you down to something less than speeding. The way the system is set up if you pay a fine for speeding the state gets the $. If it is less then the local juristdiction get the $. There is always a state charge on any ticket. Good friend recently got a 65 in a 40. Town attorney called her in, said her record was clean, so how about pleading to a lesser with no points, a fine, and a driving course. Got to love it.
     
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  12. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    These days you never know : Unfastening the top 2 or 3 buttons of your shirt and Batting your eyes might just work !!!
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    There is always the possibility that your insurance company will screw you with a surcharge. Here in NY, violations stay on your license for 3 years.
     
  14. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

    :D:D:D:D
    You beat me to that one, was thinking the same thing! lol
     
  15. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

  16. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    If you have no current points they will give you probation before judgement (PBJ) and you get no points and usually does not show on insurance. Definately worth it going to court rather than paying so as to avoid the points.
    However, you will be on probation. I just got pulled over for 22 over the limit going down a hill. He was going other way and whipped around fast! Thank god almighty he just gave me a warning! He said due to my probation status I would lose my license because the other ticket would come back. I thanked him big time! WHEW!
     
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  17. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    There are insurance points and there are traffic points. The two are separate. Here the insurance points which is the basis for calculation of your premium last 3 years the last time I checked. Traffic points are used to determine whether your license will be suspended.
     
  18. PaulGS

    PaulGS Well-Known Member

    In Mass., there is a 6 year surcharge on any moving violation if guilty.

    So a $250 ticket will cost you the original fine plus $250 x 6 years ($1,750)

    If your state is like this, hire an attorney.
     
  19. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 STAGE 1 & 2

    Next time, go faster.......lol.......But seriously, just pay an attorney the $300 and move on, otherwise you will lose, the game is rigged so that you're gonna pay someone period.
     
  20. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Joe, You didn't say how good or bad your current driving record is. If you have had numerous tickets, it might well benefit you to ask for a continuance and "lawyer up"; if it is relatively violation-free, I'd just man up and pay the ticket.
     

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