Change the gear ratio

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by Robs455, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    Hi folks

    I would like to change my gear ratio on my Buick GS 400 with the 12 Bolt axle. I determine the current ratio to 3.08 (1 Full Tire turn = 3 and a little on the drive shaft).

    Target ratio should be 3.42 or 3.73 .

    Transmission will be a T56 Magnum with :[TABLE="width: 80%"]
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    [TD]1st[/TD]
    [TD]2nd[/TD]
    [TD]3rd[/TD]
    [TD]4th[/TD]
    [TD]5th[/TD]
    [TD]6th[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD]2.66[/TD]
    [TD]1.78[/TD]
    [TD]1.30[/TD]
    [TD]1.00[/TD]
    [TD]0.80[/TD]
    [TD]0.63[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
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    </tbody>[/TABLE]

    There are a lot ring and pinion gear sets for GM but which is the right for the Buick? and what brand i should take?

    Any suggetions and advices are great

    Kind Regards

    Robert
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No GS ever came with a 12 bolt as far as I know. Some Canadian built Skylarks got them.
     
  3. Joe T

    Joe T Well-Known Member

    Canadian built GS's do have 12 bolt rears. I like the 355's myself.
     
  4. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    My car was built in Ottawa and was an export model.

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    The cover has 12 Bolt, that's reason why i guess its a 12 bolt
     
  5. 73-462GS

    73-462GS GS Mike

    It is the bolt count on the ring gear that determines 12 vs 10. The cover bolt count is a misconception. (Not trying to be a smart azz here). Mike D.
     
  6. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Remove the cover, take a picture of the inside of the rear end and send it to Monzaz here on the board... he will help you ID it and get you the parts you need.
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Then it is a Chevy 12 bolt. Just order 12 bolt gears.
     
  8. dentboy

    dentboy stacy kelevra

    Put 4.10 in it. You'll love it. Plenty of grunt and torque real fun on the street
     
  9. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    He could go with 4.10 if he wanted, judging by the .63 overdrive ratio:grin:
     
  10. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

    X2. I've got 200-4R with a .67 OD and 4.10 gears. Great 1st gear and 70mph@2,400rpm.
     
  11. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    Likewise. I run a 3.89 gear in my Skylark with a .64 overdrive. I picked that gear based on what I expect to mph/redline in the 1/4. I get around 19-19.5mpg with the combination.

    I run 4.56 gears and .67 OD (200-4r) in my Firebird. Makes the 250cid L6 quite peppy in 1st and 2nd :pp The small engine still gets 20mpg on the highway.
     
  12. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    Okay you have convinced me to take a higher gear. Important for me is a good performace / mpg ratio. A gallon gas cost here $6.60 and we don't have an 1/4 Mile track. I just want cruise around the town and drive on highway's for visit a US car meeting. I guess the 3.73 gears do the right job. Before i order the gear, i will take the cover off and inspect the ring gear to determine how much bolts it has. I saw the axle has stamped numbers, can these verify the kind of it? Or Larry are you sure about its a 12 bolt? MikeD unsettled me a bit...
     
  13. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    That looks like the same rear end I have in my GS ( Chevy 12 bolt posi I got for free) with C-clip axles.
    When you order gears, bearings, shims and stuff, make sure you order it for a 12 bolt car, NOT 12 bolt truck.
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Rob, Don't forget your rear tire height figures into this as well. The stock tire height was about 26.6" tall. Anything below or above that height alters effective gear ratio. I have 3.73's in my GS, but with a 28" tire, they are effectively 3.54's
     
  15. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

  16. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  17. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    I did write with Jim from hurst driveline. He's the tech guy and he recommend me to use the close ratio and 3.73 Gears. I do some math and he is absolute right. The critical spot is the speed of the drive shaft. My car must ( not my opinion, its the Law here) run the same maximum speed as before. The speed is 125 mph and with the 4.11 and a 27" tire my drive shaft turns 6400 RPMs. The 3.73 gears will reduce the speed to 5800 RPM. I asked him about the max RPM of the common drive shafts:

    A 55 inch steel drive shaft 3-1/2 inches in diameter has a critical speed of 5634 RPM
    A 55 inch steel drive shaft 4 inches in diameter has a critical speed of 6423 RPM
    A 55 inch Aluminum drive shaft 3-1/2 inches in diameter has a critical speed of 6381 RPM
    A 55 inch Aluminum drive shaft 4 inches in diameter has a critical speed of 7245 RPM

    I will buy the 3 1/2 aluminum drive shaft for comfort and safety.

    Larry are these gears the right ones? Is the summit stuff good or should i take a better brand?

    Thanks for your help

    Robert
     
  18. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Rob,
    It depends on your priorities. Is this a race car or a street car?
     
  19. Robs455

    Robs455 Well-Known Member

    Larry

    It will be a fun car. cruising around with hard pull's sometimes
     
  20. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That's a street car then. My choice would be the wide ratio with 4.11's for the reasons I specified earlier.


    You make the choice for you though, it's your car.
     

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