Buick 455

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Donks82, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. tlivingd

    tlivingd BIG BLOCK, THE ANTI PRIUS

    guys, I think we maybe overwelming him with info as of yet.

    to sonic check the block, the heads come off and the insides of the cylinder walls are checked for their thickness. when punching .060 over, it leaves very little material left to hold the piston in from the water passages with our blocks. hence the sonic check. some engines can be built to run .060 over with little problem. others can't

    Buick engines like a larger carb period. no if's ands or buts. larger carb. 800 cfm was factory in the later engines such as yours ('72 and up) 750 cfm pre '72. Since you want to be making more power you'll want either the same size or larger (many people on this site are making quite a bit more power than you will be with the 800 cfm Q jet. or the 850 Holley. so you don't need to go crazy)

    You will need to set up almost every aftermarket carb to your application as they are primarily intended for chevy applications. (various jetting and such) There are a lot of people who can help you with this as well right here on this site no matter what carb you decide to do as long as you go with the right size.

    if you stay with a spread bore carb (q jet, some edelbrock) your factory intake manifold is a good piece to stick with there has been very little gain in changing it out in the milder builds. Other than the 60 lb your engine suddenly looses.

    Also IMHO it may not be a good idea to remove the High Volume pump as of yet because we don't know what his bearing clearances are. He may need to move more oil as his bottom end clearances are too big per buick's spec. and while it's a crutch it may help the engine live longer. it also depends on the question below.

    has this engine been run, if so what does your oil pressure look like and what weight of oil are you running (10w-40 for example) if you don't have an oil gauge that should be very high on the list of to get items if not the first, also pick up the copper line kit as well as it's much more durable than the plastic line.

    If the engine is .060 over. you may run into cooling problems. this means as heavy a duty radiator you can and a 7 blade fan with a good heavy duty clutch. or a good electric fan setup but most people have had the best luck with the 7 blade fan and heavy duty clutch. (flex fans suck btw) oh and you will need the big plastic/fiberglass fan shroud with the mechanical fan.

    You could have a very good setup there, or one thats kinda lacking. hopefully the machine shop did good. An engine shop that deals primarily with chevy's may not have built this engine well. w/o knowing the shops reputation or their experience we can only speak of horror stories of a non buick shop doing the work.




    I'm guessing these are his cam specs this is a popular chevy grind. not sure what it compares to TA grinds however, you could check their website for comparison.
    <TABLE style="WIDTH: 720px; HEIGHT: 871px" cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width=750 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto" vAlign=center>Description</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" vAlign=center></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" vAlign=center></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" vAlign=center colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=center align=middle colSpan=3 rowSpan=3>
    [​IMG]</TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto">Part Number:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 100px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=96-203-4 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox1></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto">Grind Number:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 150px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=268H name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox5></TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto">Lifter Type:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto"><TEXTAREA id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 100px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; HEIGHT: 30px; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: left" name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox2 readOnly>Hydraulic Lifter</TEXTAREA></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto">Engine Family:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" colSpan=2><TEXTAREA id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 150px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey" name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox6 readOnly>Buick 400, 430, 455 c.i. 8 CYL. 1967-1976</TEXTAREA></TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto">Description:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" colSpan=7><TEXTAREA id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 585px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey" name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox3 readOnly>Hydraulic-High performance cam for everyday driving. Broad powerband. Slightly rough idle in 400, mostly smooth in 455.</TEXTAREA></TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto">Cam Family:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" colSpan=7><TEXTAREA id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 584px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey" name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox4 readOnly>High Energy Hydraulic Flat Tappet Camshafts</TEXTAREA></TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 19px">Specifications</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 19px"></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 19px" colSpan=2></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 19px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=bottom colSpan=2>Intake</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 19px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=bottom colSpan=2>Exhaust</TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto">RPM-Range:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox7 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 100px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value="1200 to 5200" name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox7></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" colSpan=2>Valve Lash:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT class=textboxes id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox11 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=Hyd. name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox11></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox12 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=Hyd. name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox12></TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 22px">Valve Timing:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 22px"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox8 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 100px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=0.006 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox8></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 22px" colSpan=2>Duration:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 22px" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox13 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=268 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox13></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 22px" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox14 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=268 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox14></TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto">Lobe-Center Angle:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox9 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 100px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=110 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox9></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" colSpan=2>Duration @ .050" Lift:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox15 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=218 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox15></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox16 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=218 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox16></TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto">Intake Centerline:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox10 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 100px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=106 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox10></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" colSpan=2>Valve Lift:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox17 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=0.469 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox17></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox18 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=0.469 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox18></TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 12px"></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 12px"></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 12px" colSpan=2>Lobe Lift:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 12px" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox19 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=0.303 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox19></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 12px" align=middle colSpan=2><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox20 style="BORDER-RIGHT: gray 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: gray 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: gray 1px solid; WIDTH: 85px; BORDER-BOTTOM: gray 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: lightgrey; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=0.303 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox20></TD></TR><TR style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><TD style="WIDTH: auto" vAlign=baseline borderColor=dimgray align=middle width=250 bgColor=lightgrey colSpan=2 rowSpan=4>Installation Notes
    <TEXTAREA id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox25 style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; WIDTH: 250px; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; HEIGHT: 117px" name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox25 readOnly>[7] Stock springs cannot be used.[2] Requires machining on cylinder heads.</TEXTAREA>
    </TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 21px"></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; HEIGHT: 21px"></TD><TD style="HEIGHT: 21px"></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 79px; HEIGHT: 21px"></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 3px; HEIGHT: 21px"></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 75px; HEIGHT: 21px"></TD></TR><TR style="FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><TD style="WIDTH: auto" colSpan=2>Valve Timing @ 0.006" Lift:</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=bottom colSpan=2>Open</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=bottom colSpan=2>Close</TD></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: auto"></TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto; TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=center rowSpan=2>Intake


    Exhuast</TD><TD style="WIDTH: auto" vAlign=top borderColor=dimgray bgColor=lightgrey colSpan=4 rowSpan=2> <TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD style="WIDTH: 100px"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox21 style="WIDTH: 40px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=28 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox21></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px"> BTDC</TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox22 style="WIDTH: 40px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=60 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox22></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px">ABDC</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=4 rowSpan=2></TD></TR><TR></TR><TR><TD style="WIDTH: 100px"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox23 style="WIDTH: 40px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=68 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox23></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px">BBDC </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px"><INPUT id=CamSpecDetailsControl1_FormView1_TextBox24 style="WIDTH: 40px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" readOnly value=20 name=CamSpecDetailsControl1$FormView1$TextBox24></TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px">ATDC</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
     
  2. Donks82

    Donks82 Well-Known Member

    Well my engine has not been started up yet. It has been setting since august of last year since I picked it up from the machine shop. I'm just going to pull the motor back out and let a buick professional check it out. Anybody know of any buick guys around the Mississippi (Jackson) area? I had my motor built by a machine shop in Mobile Al. called the (Engine Machine Shop). I have some small electric dual fans. I was going to wire them so that they would run constantly as long as the engine is running. When I bought the motor from the guy he was running a 650 cfm edelbrock so I'm gonna get rid of that carb an get a 850 Q-jet to go with my application. I'm really not building this engine to run on a track just to run a chevy guy here and there but nothing to take to the drag strip. So just be easy with me guys I've learned a lot from you all since I posted this thread yesterday and I just wanna say thanks and keep the info coming cause I can never learn enough about the almighty buick cause a lot of Cheby guys underestimate the buick.
     
  3. Yardley

    Yardley Club Jackass

    Decisions you won't regret. Heck, it may have been built right and just require sonic testing and checking clearances.

    Unless you know what cam bearings are in there though, I'd swap in a set of TA's dual groove ones.

    That cam is closest to TA's C110. A small cam at best, not much more than the Stage1 cam. And every TA cam except for 3 of them have more duration on the exhaust side. Even the factory Stage1 cam has more exhaust duration than the intake side (and more than that cam). You are looking at not much of an increase in power with that cam.

    Do you know what valve springs were installed when the heads were redone? If good Stage1 springs were installed you can just stick a hotter cam in there and be done. If stock springs were installed you shouldn't go to any bigger cam than that or valve float could be a problem.

    TA suggests that the C110 cam (basically the one you have now) is as hot as you can go with a compression ratio under 9:1.

    This is where knowing just what was done to your engine and how it specs out really helps.

    Basically what it looks like you have is pretty much a stock rebuild of a low-power, low-compression 455 with a decent valve job and an overbore. Not a bad start, but don't expect to run any better than high 13's, and probably low 14s at best.
     
  4. Bad Buick

    Bad Buick Foe Fiddy Five

    The #1 most important ingredient for building a reliable street 455 Buick is the rod and main bearing clearances. It seems every one has there own ideas but I can only tell you my expierience: the first 455 I rebuilt for the street I had the clearances set too .003 to .0035 on the rod and main bearings and a year or so later I was pulling the motor back out due to a spun #7 rod bearing and melted front cam bearing. I did some research and found out that from .0017 to .002 was where the clearances should have been for a street motor. So I had the crank ground(again)to .002 and it has lasted for roughly 40,000 miles with absolutely no issues. I reused the stock timing gear cover but heres the parts I used to help the oiling system:

    1. TA Teflon coated cam bearings.
    2. TA adjustable oil pressure regulator.
    3. TA oil pump booster plate.
    4. 5/8 oil pick up tube.
    5. Hi volume oil pump(Use a standard oil pump instead!!).
    6. Mechanichal oil guage(mandatory with a 455 Buick!!!).

    A lot of people say not to use the HV oil pump as it puts to much strain on the front cam bearing but so far using SAE 30 weight oil and waiting till the oil warms and pressure drops prior to driving it has not been a problem. If I had to do it again I would have just used the standard oil pump and not the HV pump. I did not know about the HV oil pump issues when I got it.

    Five years and 50,000 miles later Running Shell Rotella SAE 30 diesel oil the motor sits @ about 20 PSI @ 650 RPM hot idle and 65 PSI @ 2800 on the interstate.

    Power: Depending on what the heads flow I think you will make 300 HP(maybe 325)with that cam and heads. Put a good ignition system and exghaust system along with a aluminum intake manifold and you will be there. Don't forget 455 Buicks love carburetion. Darn near impossible to overcarb. I would go with at least a 850 with that motor. The 455 Buick excels at bottom and mid range torque as that is what they were designed for.

    In my expierience the 455 Buick is a very reliable motor as long as you understand its weaknesses and take care of those weaknesses if you are rebuilding them for any type of power>My .03 cents.
     
  5. rmstg2

    rmstg2 Gold Level Contributor

    I'm going out on a limb here, but if it were mine I would run it. Just make sure you don't have issues with the timing chain. Find out what the minimum acceptable oil pressure is at idle when at normal running tempuratures.
    If the oil pressure is where it should be I would guess your clearances are OK. You also said you had a high performance oil pump? In what way is it high performance. There is a difference between high volumn and high performance. If it is a single gear pump (not stacked gears) it should be OK. If it is a true high volumn make sure the engine is good and warm as stated above before you drive it or rev it up. It would also be a good idea to have the builder there for break in if possible. That way he can't blame you
    if the engine fails during breakin. Good Luck.:TU:
    Bob H.

    I didn't know 75/76 LaSabres came with 455s
     
  6. paul c

    paul c Well-Known Member

    well you found the right site. now just think of one thing at a time. if you are going to have the motor looked at by someone w/ buick experience just concentrate on that. call t/a performance and evev see what they have to say. they might recommend a different cam to get you going. they probably even can recommend someone in your area. once you find someone just do as they recommend, even if it takes longer to save up $. nothing worse than doing it two or more times. one thing i would recommend is earlier heads. if you have stock type pistons go with 1970 units. then you can acheive in the 9's for comp. ratio. good luck and don't rush it.
     
  7. Donks82

    Donks82 Well-Known Member

    Well I got the stock valve springs from Internal Engine Parts Group for that cam. I'm gonna make that call to the guy that built my engine and see if he remembers the specs or wrote them down anywhere and I will try to post them if he has them.
    So can anybody tell me what the oil pressure is supposed to be so if the guy doesn't remember the specs and if I start the engine I will know what the oil pressure should be?

    If the oil pressure is right where it supposed to be on start up and the engine is warm then my specs should be okay right?? Okay what type of oil and what weight should I run on break in? It has castrol 20/50 in it right now with a can of break in lube for my cam but like I say the engine hasn't been started up yet or turned over. Also I have a high volume pump not high performance sorry for the error.

    I have an Aluminum edelbrock intake installed on there already and I'm gonna get a Q-jet 850 to sit on top. I'm gonna run headers out to 2" 1/2 exhaust pipes to 2 super 44 flowmasters.

    I think I'm gonna run it if I can find out what is the min oil pressure at normal operating temp. How would I go about getting the fuel pump to clear the timing chain?
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    20W/50 is too thick for break in. A straight 30W like Brad Penn break in oil is ideal. You won't know your minimum oil pressure until you get a chance to actually drive the car and heat the oil up. At break in RPMs of 2000-2500, all you need is 30-35 psi.

    All you need to do is use a rat tail file to oval out the fuel pump mounting holes. Then just move the pump forward about a 1/16". That's all it takes.
     
  9. Donks82

    Donks82 Well-Known Member

    What would the right oil and weight I should use to break-in the engine and use on a regular basis.
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  11. Donks82

    Donks82 Well-Known Member

    You did I'm sorry thanks. So can the oil be picked up at a local parts house?
     
  12. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Don't know, but if you call around, you might find it. Or, you can Google it, and buy it online.
     
  13. Donks82

    Donks82 Well-Known Member

    Does anybody know a good Buick person in Mississippi that knows the in's and out's of a Buick engine?
     
  14. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    I live in Biloxi, I am a mechanic, But I have picked up alot of GREAT info here. This added information along with my Training and 25 yrs. experience sure helped. This past year I built my First BBB 455 which I have been running on the test stand for several weaks off and on. Everything looks good so far. I really picked up alot of valuable info which I would of never known about the BBB. Everyone here always says don't build it like a Chevy. As for a Buick 455 EXPERT in the State I don't know of one. Someone else may. As for any machine work needed I sent my parts to Wildcat Engine in Florida. I think they are affiliated with Poston Buick in Alabama. It is great to see another Buick owner fairly close in the State. You should come down for the next Cruisn the Coast. I can help you with some things for sure fuel pump, ect.
     
  15. Donks82

    Donks82 Well-Known Member

    Okay thanks for the info. I can say I've learned a lot since I've been on this site as well. I would be delighted to come down for cruising the coast but my car will be no where close to being finished anyway. I'm restoring a 1982 Cutlass supreme 4-dr that this motor is going in. I had my engine rebuilt over in Mobile Al. and I went to Poston to buy some of the parts that they needed to finish my built so I know where Poston is. The Wizard was telling me to take a rat tail file and oval out the mounting holes and slide the pump foward about 1/16 and I should be okay. I will save you as as a buddy on my list so If I have any ??????s about something I won't hesitate to drop you a line.
     
  16. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    ... search this site for how to prime the motor (oil priming) BEFORE you try and start it.
     
  17. Donks82

    Donks82 Well-Known Member

    The guys at the machine shop told me to spin it over for about 30 secs w/o the plugs to get the oil pressure up. I don't know if this is correct but I will do more research before I do that to make sure that is right.
     
  18. rmstg2

    rmstg2 Gold Level Contributor

    :error:
     
  19. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN

    Why the heck are you guys going to let him start this engine without checking the mains and rods? Plastigage?

    No more than an hour of taking the pan off and getting a new gasket. It won't let you know what cam bearings are in there but at least you'll know the crank and rods are safe.

    Why not check on those cam bearings?


    Sorry for inturpting.
    Back to our regularly schedule schooling.
     
  20. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    Yes that is correct about the fuel pump as stated by other members here, I did not take a Picture when I did my pump. Maybe someone has a pic for you so you will better understand. I did not catch in the above post who the builder was ? What did Poston do for you ? I would think you're reciept would have listed specs and Parts ? Can you call them and get the information ? I used a drill to prime my Oil Pump several times before start up, Actually I had the valve covers off the first time and oil flowed all the way through to the pushrods to the rockers. No lifter tap on the very firse start up. I was glad to see oil flow at all 16 rockers.
     

Share This Page