***Buick 350 Alum Heads Update***

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by sean Buick 76, Apr 6, 2016.

  1. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Put that 510 back in, or maybe buy a 608 cam. Looks like a nasty grind.
    ...maybe Sean will sell you that big roller he's not going to use.:D
     
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  2. MrSony

    MrSony Well-Known Member

    So... Stock length pushrods? Or just measure to be safe?
     
  3. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You know the answer to that question.:)
     
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  4. StfSocal

    StfSocal Well-Known Member

    Always measure ;)
     
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  5. TABuickMike

    TABuickMike Michael Tomaszewski Jr

    My engine with a roller cam and Johnson hydraulic lifters needed 9.325" pushrods and with Morels needed 9.550"
     
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  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Sure about that Mike? Could you have it reversed? Pushrod length with the Morel lifters in my 470 was 8.725. The Johnsons required 8.950 pushrods. The Johnson Roller lifters have a plunger cup that is .230 deeper.
     
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  7. Julian

    Julian Well-Known Member

    Comparing 350 to a 455.. different deck heights?
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Not comparing deck heights, just Morel and Johnson lifter pushrod cup depth whether 350 or 455. I needed longer push rods with the Johnson lifters because of the deeper cup.
     
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  9. TABuickMike

    TABuickMike Michael Tomaszewski Jr

    I'm sorry, you're correct Larry. I read my notes wrong; I had the height difference written down and added it instead of subtracting it from my current pushrod length. The Morels are .220" taller than the Johnsons.

    My engine with a roller cam and Johnson hydraulic lifters needed 9.325" pushrods and with Morels would need 9.100"
     
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  10. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    following and digesting all this stuff, there seems to be a lot of secrecy about the effectiveness of these heads.
    business wise, if you want to sell 'em and make money, tell me more, tell me how good they are, tell me how happy I will be buying these heads. so far, it's been ZILCH.!!! there are a couple of us out there that are thrashing the 350. do you go after those people for a sale? the keyboard racers AIN'T gonna buy the heads.

    if I step on your toes and ground them and pissed you off, good. think about how long people have waited for product to make the buick 350 run.
     
  11. vonhef

    vonhef Well-Known Member

    I have ordered & paid for a set of these and should receive them soon. How good are these heads and how will I use them?
    I am not a drag racer... nor will I even use a dyno. I am just a street rodder that wants more HP than a stock engine produced.
    Enough has been revealed about the flow numbers that I know they are better than stock heads. And that was good enough for me!
     
  12. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    Dont mind GSjohnny .. he must be off the meds again ;)
     
  13. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Well there you go that is the answer we all wanted to hear. They are better than stock and that is good enough for me.

    Of course they are going to be better than stock that is a no brainer but they should have flowed better than my ported stock heads.

    I am waiting for our northern 350 guru to max port the heads and get them on the car that should take another 10 years.

    So you all going to tell me that my 13.31 time with stock ported heads is about as good as it gets

    Forget this stock crap I want to beat the 455's that are warmed over.

    Those heads should put me at 12.90 and no slower. OUT OF THE BOX

    So I made 395 hp with a TA 510 cam now you guys that want to run these heads and the new intake with a roller cam and 10.5 comp should make 500 hp now easily RIGHT!

    So who wants the heads more the guys that race or the ones that want a better than stock engine.

    Who in the world is running a power adder more that me and gsjohnny where are all those turbo 350's at we keep hearing about. 0
    you know the ones that are going to put the 350 in the forefront. 0

    When you beat my 11.81 @114 time on nitrous with your 350 then you have something. Still waiting...
    At least beat my 12.32 time I just did 2 weeks ago at Quaker on a pissy 75 shot of nitrous. and that is with a 25 year old motor since the last rebuild.

    My crap still runs and strong and everyone else is gone.

    you guys on here are just plain weak that is all there is to it.

    This is 20 years overdo and a little late to the program.
     
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  14. sriley531

    sriley531 Excommunicado

    Wow, the SBB faithful sect of this community is such a tight-knit brotherhood....

    o_O:eek::rolleyes:
     
  15. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    This is getting interesting for sure. Anyone else have a set on the way?
     
  16. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Oh yeah just a bundle of positivity around here .

    So far 9 sets have been sold. Things will come around, the initial dyno tests went really well so good things are coming.

    Im planning to order another set of heads, maybe two.

    Scotty Brown and I spoke the other day for an hour. He is going to buy a set, port them and develop a repeatable CNC program for them. He even plans to build a 350 engine now that we have all the puzzle pieces.

    The haters can hate, it doesn’t bother me anymore.
     
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  17. 72gs4spd

    72gs4spd Well-Known Member

    I currently have a short block at a retired machinist that used to build engines for a very well known NHRA pro stock team. To say the least it will be a while before I will be able to post anything. He's a avid fisherman and also retired, so progress during the summer months will be slow. He wants to remain anonymous beings he doesn't need the exposure. I will though post as things unfold. I wont be swapping motors till this winter. Some more information from TA would be appreciated, I for one would think it would boost sales. My machinist will be contacting them when he compiles a list of what he wants from them for the build.
     
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  18. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    glad to see you got the secret inside track of how many have been sold. then again that don't mean squat. give us the dyno tests results.
    back it up with some info. I built my engine and was posted on the bpg board on everything I did good and bad. reported how good the
    s/p intake is on the 350. even had pics posted by my son.
    no dyno results because i go by e.t and mph AT THE TRACK.
    fox and demko has their's on here. where the hell is everybody else?
     
  19. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    Again I see multiple years teething pains with all the different rockers, spacer's, washer's and push rod differences..
    It's obvious TA has dyno these for comparisons to the factory steel heads. Are they worried about posting spec's or just want to surprise us??
    Did the 455 AL Stage 1 heads take so long to be marketed?
     
  20. 72gs4spd

    72gs4spd Well-Known Member

    I’m hoping for a surprise
     
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