Armed Citizen stops mass Mall shooting.....

Greg I also own a handgun used to take a life. I fought California for a year to get it back in our family's safe. Our local police chief helped us win the battle with California's attorney general.
I respect the journey your family has traveled I'm right there with you.
I carry the Browning at certain times as I don't blame it or Steven for what happened.
Maybe that is what pushed me to be an RSO and finishing up my instructor classes.
Thanks for opening up the thread

 

i lived in indianapolis area in the 1990 hung out in greenwood mall a lot with friends. thank to the armed citizen taking action and saving lots of lives.

 

I still remember taking gun safety classes as a teenager with the intent of going hunting. Although my hunting career never got started, what I learned about firearms has stuck with me decades later. The class was held in a local high school which had its own shooting range in the basement.

Even though Canada has some of the strictest gun control laws, we still have innocent people getting shot. Gun control in so many words simply doesn't work.

 

Armed Citizen stops mass Mall shooting.....
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Only here on V8 do we get fact instead of opinion....

 

Pardon me for playing captain obvious...

But isn't the desire to kill multiple individuals that you don't know, a good indicator that the shooter is suffering from a mental illness? I don't know a lot of sane folks who are hankerin' to shoot up a school or a mall, or a parade..

Maybe you do.. and the only thing that is saving lives is the lack of a handy gun???

Are you saying these mass shooters are rational people, who saw a gun and simply opened fire? Your train of logic indicates that.. "The gun made me do it??"

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And how soon we forget..

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/22/us/wisconsin-waukesha-parade.html

5 people killed in mass attack with a vehicle..

So Steve, I am going to need you to be pro-active here.. Cars are the problem, and I expect that you will drive to your local police department, and turn in your keys.

I mean it only makes sense, your so certain that inanimate objects are killing people.. Heck, one could argue, that since a car can move under it's own power (a gun can't) that a car is much more dangerous than a gun, so we must remove them from society.

It couldn't possibly be the person holding the gun, or the steering wheel, that is the problem.

Or could it....

JW

 

I grew up with no guns in my family and was not really around them, the family that had a gun had a shotgun and if any of those kids touched it dad would beat their as for it.
There was a whole gang in my neighborhood, and no one had a gun, yet they were available, and we could buy one at 18 years old and no one did, Why is that? Were we smarter back then or was it we had more sense and some morals.
which is it

Something changed the kids and it sure wasn't a gun that did it so what was it. Too much kill video games where you never really die and always come back to life? maybe,
Maybe when parents started to let their kids do whatever they wanted changed things since I was a kid.
With all the bullcrap going on today with forced entries on homes you have to have a gun. If it was 1976, I wouldn't bother since I didn't need it back then but sumbuddy has these kids minds in the gutter and grow up to be even meaner

So I now have a 9mm and a shotgun with enough shells to take the wall down.
Do I need it? Shouldn't but I am not going to have someone come busting in to rob me and shoot me, piss on that sh**!

If it wasn't for that guy in that mall with a gun, that mall would have been all shot up WAY before police got there. Would the cops have gone in or would it be Uvalde part 2
Hail to the gunman that ended a massacre
I do not carry a gun and really do not want to How about I just kick yer ars like the old days lol

 

https://zeenews.india.com/world/19-hurt-as-car-ploughs-into-crowd-in-melbourne-2068678.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/car-p...hwest-festival-leaving-two-dead-several-hurt/


https://nbc-2.com/news/2022/06/08/o...uries-after-car-ploughs-into-crowd-in-berlin/

https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2...ghs-into-city-centre-crowd-before-driving-off


Exactly , go turn in keys . No one needs a fully automatic transmission and high capacity vans .

 

All sarcasm aside...

Gun violence and mass shootings are the unfortunate result of a free society, with a constitutional right to own a firearm.

Pornography of the filthiest kind is the unfortunate result of free speech, protected by the first amendment.

Both are unintended consequences of good laws. Both of these constitutional rights have limitations.

It is up to the legislatures of each state to determine these limits, within the confines of that right. And each state should, and does do that.

But that's not the issue here, as I said before the call for gun control after these incidents is simply the actions of a political party looking to drive a wedge into the population. But nobody is buying it, not even the politicians.. that is why nothing really gets done.

I agree doing nothing is not the answer. And while I would love it if there was some magical solution to this issue, there is not.

Your not going to legislate the evil out of people.

Not gonna happen.

So we must protect our loved ones, individually and as groups. While I also don't care for the idea of turning schools and churches into something that resembles a prision, I like it a hell of alot more than doing nothing, and allowing our children to be slaughtered to preserve a wedge voting issue.

As a child, I would appreciate the idea that the adults around me are concerned for my safety. And that they respect me enough to let me know that we all live in a dangerous world.

JW

 

One claim that is constantly repeated -- and has been in this thread-- is that restricting access to certain guns won't work, because criminals will always find a way to get them. That claim is so easily disproven that it is laughable.

Japan, Singapore, Australia, lots of European countries have strict gun control measures in place. Yet somehow criminals there aren't running amuck armed to the teeth. It is almost like they can't get unlimited guns either. It almost seems like gun control works in all those places.

And in the US, okay, I was wrong -- you can get a fully automatic machine gun, but it is evidently quite the process. But criminals are not running amuck here with fancy machine guns, because access to such guns is strictly controlled. Yep, gun control -- right here in the US of A -- and it works.

Grenade launchers? Public don't got em. Criminal don't got em. Grenade launcher control -- it works!

Now if you want to argue that there are so damn many crazy weapons on the street that any attempt to control them would be shutting the barn door after the horse, that might be a little more believable. Well, except for the fact that it worked in Australia and New Zealand, and Canada is heading there too...

 

Even if I could be convinced to accept the surrender of my firearms, even if somehow the government enacted confiscation, and somehow they convinced or brainwashed me, I still wouldn’t be the first in line to surrender mine!
Patrick

 

It won't get any easier in another 5 years when there are another 20 million guns in the country.

Responsible gun ownership isn't the problem. Yeah, innocent people get shot in Canada too, WTF. Why are we normalizing people being randomly gunned down by some asshole.

Why aren't people up in arms about this. These lunatics are making responsible gun owners look bad.

I wonder if it was legislatures being shot up instead of schools if the problem might get a little more attention. I am NOT advocating for that.