Another 1970 GS Stage 1

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by COPO_Anders, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. 70GREENROCKETS

    70GREENROCKETS Well-Known Member

    Hi everyone wow that’s MY fire red stage 1 4 speed I had at the nats, what a surprise to see it posted, I have been going to post some pics. It scored a gold concours even with the spyders on the other side, I towed900 miles and showed it 4 hours Friday then the rainout came and went home 900 more! The car is bare bones, base benchseat ,clear glass ,tach and gauges, rear sway bar. I hope to bring to the 40th at bg and to the 1970 display at Mcacn 2020.thanks to Rich and Duane for advice on f4 wheel option. I got the trim rings from Ames Pontiac.
     
  2. Rich Johns

    Rich Johns Platinum Level Contributor

    Yes these wheels were coded on rim WD on fall of 1969 and then changed to WH starting around January 1970.Note these wheels posted above by Jim were built March 11 1970.

    663, 1970 Buick GS 455/GS Stage 1 hardtops and 68 GS 455/GS Stage 1 convertibles in 1970 were factory equipped with these wheel/tire combo.
     
  3. COPO_Anders

    COPO_Anders Well-Known Member

    Thanks all for your information about wheel and tire options. It will help a lot.

    Ten days ago we went to a big dragrace parts swap meet. I didn´t find any Buick-parts to buy, but got this brochure with me home. I was a bit surprised to find that Protective Side Moldings were not available on the GS. Still, our car has the side moldings. Is there a date after when they became available, or is the information in the brochure just not correct ?

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  4. COPO_Anders

    COPO_Anders Well-Known Member

    I have received the decoded POBF-sheet from Duane which confirmes it to be a GS Stage 1 with protective side moldings. But I still don´t understand why the brochure above states it was not available on the GS model ?
     
  5. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Probably a miss print because it was already available on the skylark.
     
  6. Duane

    Duane Member

    Those Brochures were printed in early 1969 so they were ready for the beginning of the 70 Model Year. There are often incorrect options either shown or listed in them that do not match with what the factory offered.
    Duane
     
  7. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Do Yourself a favor when you restore the car get rid of them and they kill the body lines IMG_3317.JPG IMG_3318.JPG
     
  8. Utah455

    Utah455 Platinum Level Contributor

    Yes, my 70 stage 1 is suppose to have them too, but I didn’t put them on. Like it better without.
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  9. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Yep, luckily the original owner did not check the box on my car. Love the white can't wait to see the car all done.
     
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  10. Philip66

    Philip66 Well-Known Member

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    Love that picture!
    Average person looks at that and says "What a pile of JUNK!"

    All of us Buick guys see that pile and recognize everything there.;)
     
  11. alvareracing

    alvareracing Platinum Level Contributor

    most of us that have built many of them say "that's a butt load of work" ! be nice to be younger with energy again.
     
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  12. COPO_Anders

    COPO_Anders Well-Known Member

    I don´t like them either, but shouldn´t the car be restored with them ? I´m thinking: on a regular Skylark, it doesn´t matter. But on a numbers matching GS Stage 1 ?

    Duane, when I read something in a newspaper I always evaluate the information. When it comes to a brochure like this I thought the information was more correct.
    But I should have known. Our automatic Stage 1 project with Sandalwood vinyl top is an example of an option not being available from the start of the modelyear, and not being advertised in the brochures.
     
  13. wovenweb

    wovenweb Platinum Level Contributor

    I'm one of the few that like them on the '70...depending upon the color of your car. There are two things to look at: the body lines and the color of the car. With a color like bamboo creme, they help breakup all that "color".
     
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  14. Duane

    Duane Member

    You can restore the car however you like, it's yours.

    Personally if it was mine and I was going to restore it, I would not put the body side moldings back on. I would keep them with the car, but many people do not like them, so if you ever put the car up for sale you would either be limiting your buying audience, or would most likely get a lower price for it.

    Many people, like me think it cuts up the car too much and distracts from the body lines.

    I did the same thing while restoring the 69 Motion Equipped GS. The car as delivered from the Factory had door edge guards. There was no way I was going to put them back on, as I felt they would have hurt the look of the flowing body stripes on the sides of the car. If later someone wants to add them back, the next guy that owns it can do it.

    Again it is yours to do as you wish.
    Duane
     
  15. COPO_Anders

    COPO_Anders Well-Known Member

    On Dec 30 I wrote: "The hood is marked A 18 which I assume is January 18 (we will see)". Now looking in Duanes book I guess I was wrong. A seems to be a code for the GS hood and 18 would be the week it was produced, right ? Not original to the car in that case.
    The left frontfender is not the original so maybe the hood and fender was hurt in a small fenderbender. There are no signs of damage to the frame etc.
     
  16. Duane

    Duane Member

    The Letter code part of the date code, held some type of designation with Fisher Body, and no one knows if it designated a plant location, different area in the plant, ?

    (For 70-72 Buick A-bodies)
    All trunk lids were labeled "X", all 2-door coupe rear quarters were labeled "F".

    Also for 1970 cars the sheet metal was dated by the week, therefore your hood was built in week 18, and if it is a 70 style hood (and not a 71 or 72) then it was built in the 18th week on 1970.
    Duane
     
  17. COPO_Anders

    COPO_Anders Well-Known Member

    I took a close look at the GS hood and also at a 1972 Skylark hood to see if I could find any other differences than the obvious (air inlets), but I couldn´t find any. So what do I look for to determine which year it was made ?
    Will the air inlets tell us something ?

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  18. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    The top side of a 70 GS hood and 72 hard are identical other than the air inlets it's the underside that is the difference the 70 hoods has no spring perch, Or spring for the hood latch a 71 and 72 skylark or GS hood have a perch an spring to help release the hood.
     
  19. COPO_Anders

    COPO_Anders Well-Known Member

    So I take it this is a 71-72 hood then ?

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  20. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley RIP Staff Member

    Yep, you are correct.
     

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