Air Cleaner and underhood detail decals

Discussion in 'Chassis restoration' started by copperheadgs1, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Anyone intereted in underhood decals for their car I will list what I believe are the correct ones. Many cars are running around with incorrect decals due to many vendors selling ones that are not correct for the application they are selling them for.

    70-71 GS455/GS 350 Keep Your car All GM Decal. This was an important decal because it also had the air cleaner part number on it. Correct part is BC code with part #6485517. If car came with Heavy duty Air cleaner it had code BU with 6485521. All original GS Air cleaners I have seen from 70-71 had the BC code. It is amazing how many cars have a PP code decal which Is a Pontiac code or some other incorrect code. Someone must have massed produced that code and sold them to every vendor out there. The BC code is available from Osborne Reproductions however the part # has one wrong digit and the blue print is a bit light I Believe but at least it is available. Strangley Osborne also has the Rare Heavy Duty BU code available as well. One thing I noticed I noticed on the Osborne decals is the corners are not as round as they shuld be but that is being picky.

    AC Compressor Decal
    1970 Big Pulley GS/Skylark carried decal #5910725 Which should be black/red/silver
    1970 Small Pulley Skylark carried #5910724 Which is same color. I do not think either of these decals are made in red/black/silver scheme. Other codes are available for 70 but may not be correct. Preserve your original.
    1971 Big Pulley GS/Skylark carried #5910725 which was black/blue/silver
    1971 small Pulley Skylark carried #5910724 which is also back/blue/silver
    The 71 5910724 black/blue/silver is available from Osborne and is not bad looking. They do not offer the #725 but it is only one digit off. None of this compressori fo takes into account factory mistakes but is just a guidline.

    Harrison Evaporative Box Decal. Many cars came with a silver and Blue Harrison Decal on the fiberglass Evaporator Box. Sometimes it is on the outboard side in a tilted position and sometimes it is on the inboard side vertical. Osborne and other sources sell these with numbers like EBA-70-70B which appear to mirror the year they were on. I do not find this to be true on originals and can find no ryme or reason to them. At least something is available. There is often the same type decal inside the box on the evaporator itself.

    Another Decal rarely if ever seen is the two letter egine code decal on the front of the drivers valve cover. These are now sold by Duane(free Plug). They proably fell off the in the first few day the car was driven. I think many of the concourse cars at the BPG Nats had them put on with removable tape. Duane also has the small yellow oval steering box decals whcih had several different codes depending on year/steering option.
     
  2. 71Stage2

    71Stage2 71stage2

    Dave: PM sent for Decals
     
  3. ajesh35

    ajesh35 Well-Known Member

    put me in line as well
     
  4. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    Throttle cable decal?
     
  5. Duane

    Duane Member

    Good catch Jim, and there were 2 different ones for (70-72) 455's one was for the 70-71's and the other was for the 72's.

    Plus there is the power booster/master cylinder tags,

    and the Antifreeze decals for the Canadian cars.

    Then there are the emission decals, NA9 evaporative emission decals (for 70)

    and the electric dash pot (with associative emission decals) for the late 71 cars

    and the decal for the 70 charcoal cannisters.

    and the...............................:laugh:

    Duane
     
  6. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Guys, sorry for the confusion. I am not making these decals. Duane has the 2 letter decals for the valve cover and many others. Osborne has the air cleaner an AC stuff. I only make the correct 71 Stage-1 emission decal.
     
  7. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    There are aslo brake tags as well. I do not have as much knowledge on those..........Also anyone ever seen a letter stamp on the firewall of a car? I saw one on a Stage-1 at the Columbus event. I wish I took a picture of it. I have seen those many times on original Oldsmobiles but never on a Buick. Any ideas?
     
  8. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    I also have outline of a decal on the back of my power steering pump reservoir. No idea what it was however.
     
  9. Duane

    Duane Member

    copperheadgs1 states
    "I only make the correct 71 Stage-1 emission decal."

    Is that the early or late 71 style?

    "I also have outline of a decal on the back of my power steering pump reservoir. No idea what it was however."

    That's a 71-72 thing. Some guys spotted the one I have on the back of my power steering pump reservoir and asked me about it.:laugh:
    Duane


    PS. I make lots of decals for these cars, including the chassis decals. I make mostly the ones the other dealers like Osborne do not make.
     
  10. Racerx88

    Racerx88 Platinum Level Contributor

    Since we're talking engine compartment decals, anyone have an idea what these are? There is one small round sticker and evidence of another just below and to the left of it. These were discovered when the fender was removed.
     

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  11. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    I agree on the Osborne but only game in town. I thought of maybe doing BC air cleaner also but cost is so high to do them correct...........Duane, I guess mine must be early style as Mine did not have the other small sticker for the idle solenoid. It could not have been there as my original was in the middle and croooked to boot so nothing else would fit. My Fisher build was 5th week March 71 So I am guessing car came down Buick lline in ealry April so I guess change happend after that. I think you have one of mine I sent you a while back don't you?
     
  12. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Dean, I have not seen those on the firewall of other cars. What plant did it come out of?
     
  13. Duane

    Duane Member

    Dean,
    ".....anyone have an idea what these are? There is one small round sticker and evidence of another just below and to the left of it."

    I have seen those before. I have no idea what they signify, and never worried about them because they can not be seen on finished cars.

    DL
    "ps your build sheet will tell you all the proper codes for your car"

    Not if your car came from Flint. Flint Buildsheets are completely different and have no codes like the GMAD buildsheets have from the other plants.

    "I am Not impressed with osborne. Not only are the numbers incorrect ( said he has no plans to make correct ones )"

    That's because he got his ass sued off because some other company was buying his decals and selling reconditioned parts as NOS pieces. Jim Osborne had nothing to do with this but the lawyers didn't seem to care and he almost lost his company over this. So his decals, as well as some other manufacturer's decals have incorrect numbers or codes on them so they can be told apart from the originals. (You can blame some other a$$hole for ruining it for everyone else, not Jim Osborne.)

    (These "changes" are known and accepted on the show field.)

    Dave,
    Yeah your emmission decal would be the early design. My April car has the later design with the associative electronic dash pot decal.
    Duane
     
  14. Racerx88

    Racerx88 Platinum Level Contributor

    Flint built 01B.
     
  15. Racerx88

    Racerx88 Platinum Level Contributor

    I'm still curious as to what they might be for though. :Do No:
     
  16. Duane

    Duane Member

    Then you should contact some people that worked for Fisher Body and see what they have to say.

    At the 100 year Buick Bash at Flint we met some of those guys. Even met the guy that affixed the ID plates on the cowl. He was directing us when we were parking our cars.

    Maybe Roberta can help you contact them.
    Duane
     
  17. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Duane, I guess we now know that the switchover to electronic dashpots on Auto cars occurred sometime in April since I do not have it but yours does. Cool.........Here are some of the Decals Osborne and others offer. The Keep your car all GM as mentioned is one number off for 70-71 GS but if it is accepted I guess it is OK. The Fridgedaire and Harrison Decal are pretty nice. The two aftermarket GM certification Decals are compaired with an original. They are from two different sources and not Osborne. They are both pretty close but neither got the color 100% but after 40 years there is fade. They are both paper and should take the type print. The Osborne(not shown) is a very slick material that you cannot type on easily.
     

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  18. Racerx88

    Racerx88 Platinum Level Contributor

    The reproduction Harrison evaporator box decals also have the wrong numbers on them in the lower left-hand box. For a '72 the originals say "EBA26 72B". The '71's should be similar, substituting the "71" for the "72".
     
  19. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Richard, could be on your 72 Decals. I have very little experience with 72's. I believe it did say Stage-1 on 70 but not 71....Dean as far as the Harrison decals I havce never figured a ryme or reason to them. I have seen 65 on 70 cars that were original so who knows? They make no sense. As Duane mentioned maybe Osboren does them wrong on purpose......Duane what color was your power steering pump decal. I think mine may have been yellow rectangle.
     
  20. Duane

    Duane Member

    Dave,
    I will have to look at the car. I made my repro exactly like the original was.


    But there is something that needs to be said about all of this. If you guys are worrying about making every little nuiance correct on a decal then you are taking this way too far.

    On the show field no one is going to check to see that every part number/letter code is correct. What we do is verify that the correct year & style decals (for your time period) are on the car, nothing more.

    So for the "Keep Your Car All GM" sticker we don't care if it's a "BA", "BB", "BC", etc..... sticker because they designated different air filter elements on Buicks. What we don't want to see is a "PP" sticker because that is for a Pontiac.

    Just like front spring stickers on Buicks need to have a circle on one side but not on the other. Some other brands did not do this, but Buicks did.

    As long as the stickers look very close to what the actual stickers looked like that's fine.

    What we don't want to see is some "generic" sticker set put on a Concours car, because when that happens, points will be deducted. The same goes with guys that put stickers on the car that they never came with, agian points would be deducted.
    Duane
     

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