67 Riviera 430 Build: Chapter 2

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by johnriv67, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I ran it total for about 5 minutes at around 1500 to 1000 rpm to reacquaint the lifters and cam after they had been sitting since they were broken in on another engine.

    I thought I heard valvetrain noise, but I don’t believe it is after listening around the engine. It has pretty much always made that noise. I now will have to warm everything up and tune the idle. I’m happy having a 113 LSA over the 109 for now, cause it apparently will be much easier to make idle.

    Not to mention, it sounds pretty nasty.
     
  2. PGSS

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  3. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Only weird thing is adding 13* more intake duration at .050 so it’ll hopefully feel a good bit stronger.

    And it’s supposed to rain for two days here to maybe wash the salt off the roads. If that’s the case, I’ll be cruising on Sunday.

    I still REALLY need to do the trans and rev limiter work before I beat on it though. 450 hp on stock stuff won’t last forever as it is.
     
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  4. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    REALLY??? Your going to make us wait till Sunday????????:mad::(
     
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  5. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    You won’t have to wait too long.




    Pre-tuning, pre-everything besides running on its own.
     
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  6. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Bad news: cylinder 6 exhaust pushrod is very loose in there. What’s the chance that a lifter isn’t pumping up?

    Edit: It appears the pushrod had just loosened itself all the way.
     
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2020
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  7. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Ok that wasn’t the case. I still hear a top end noise and have pulled both valve covers and am about to adjust every pushrod
     
  8. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    John. You hear a tap everywhere on top end?
    In both videos everything sounds great. Really good.
    How's your oil pressure.
    I'm sure you cleaned the lifters. Let us know. Any chance from swapping and machining push rods are too short? Wait, you have rollers or adjustable pushrods?
    Got Zinc?
     
  9. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    Oil pressure is great as usual.
    Lifters had oil pumped through them.
    I have Smith brothers adjustable pushrods and just adjusted all 16 another time, rotating the engine 1 full rotation.
    Plenty of zinc, running a mix of Valvoline VR1 High Zinc 10w-30 and 20w-50.
     
  10. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Nice sound john!
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Adjusting all 16 valves requires 2 full revolutions of the crank.
     
  12. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I know Larry. I half assed it and will whole ass it tomorrow:D
     
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  13. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    QUOTE="1969RIVI, post: 3014494, member: 51456"]Nice sound john![/QUOTE]
    John. Your car sounds great.
    I'm running the TA413, But I think I like the sound of the 113 better...Does it have more chop than your old cam?
     
  14. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    It's too early to tell, those videos were with NO tuning at all, just to get it running. So once I do my diligence to get it running properly I'll be able to let you all know the real song the 113A will sing.
     
  15. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I think my old cam, once it was tuned, will still sound gnarlier than the new cam.

     
  16. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    Well if I remember correct. It sounded similar on the test stand. I have a long lost video somwhere.
     
  17. Freakazoid

    Freakazoid Gold Level Contributor

    I dont know, your old cam video sounds like idle is up.
    Warm up, choke closed?
     
  18. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    The new cam video is cold with the choke. Old video is probably a good bit warmer.
     
  19. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    John, iv'e got my coat on and waiting to "hear" you pull up??
    What's up my friend??:D
     
  20. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I took the liberty of sleeping in this morning. Don’t worry, won’t happen again :D
    I’ll be checking the second revolution of the engine this morning and will then fire it up once more.

    Several of my family members have said the exhaust is louder, not sure if I believe them yet. However, when the vacuum advance was added, the exhaust note did in fact quiet down.

    Also more good news, the vacuum gauge read rock steady, unlike when I thought I had a vacuum leak, when I was tuning at was able to pull 12" of vacuum at an 850 rpm idle. There's likely more work to do, but so far I am pleased.
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2020
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