Kenne bell engine Find

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by 1970stage1455, Oct 13, 2019.

  1. 1970stage1455

    1970stage1455 Well-Known Member

    Ok so here is the engine I bought off Craigslist for $500 ( I Paid Full Asking Price ) that I picked up last Saturday oct 5th 2019 I bought it from an older lady ( her husband bought it new in 1976, he passed away oct 1st 2018 ) in North Jersey the story was that he ordered The engine before he even had a car to put it in. A fall occurred on the truck while in route and dented the oil pan and valve cover and radiator was damaged it was complete carb to pan ( It was then taken apart to check for any other damage and was never put back together however he did buy all new GM gaskets to put it back together ) was ordered and shipped thru kenne bell also was listed as having stage 3 heads wasn't sure what I was going to come across after driving almost 2 hrs way. Needless to say it came home with us ( me and my father ) and inspected it once we were back home, also she gave us all the paper work for the engine turns out it's a 70 block dated for November 21st, I was able to make everything but 4 items out the total cost was 3901.70 in Sept 1976 with a 1500 deposit and 2401.70 on delivery, ( $17606.11 in today's money according to online ) over the years the muffler,b4b intake, stinger s4 system and 1000cfm TQ went missing also included was a 67 switch pitch trans and kb149 converter included ( never used both from kenne bell ) we are going to put it together and put it in a 70 stage 1 ( not numbers matching ex race car ) we are going to finish putting it together and see how it runs, if any one has any info I would love to learn as much as I can included in pictures are what I could make out on the receipts I have a set of kenne bell roller rockers, headers, B4B intake already to go on it plan on getting it in the car within the next 3 weeks

    Things I could read off the kenne bell papers

    Block and Crank $150
    Machine Work $275
    Balance $60
    Transmission ( 67 Switch Pitch ) $300
    KB 149 Torque converter $175
    Stage 3 Heads BARE $490
    Stainless Intake Valves $66.40
    KB Mark C Cam $75
    Headers MISSING
    Muffler MISSING
    Radiator Damaged in Shipping
    KBCVC Valve Covers Damaged in shipping
    Carrillo Rods KB32302 $535
    1000CFM TQ carb MISSING
    Jahns FP Series Pistons forged alloy $196
    B4B Intake MISSING
    Stinger S4 ignition system MISSING
    KB100 High Rev Lifters $33
    KB103C Ultimate Adjustable Pushrods $45
    KB107 Heavy Duty Trick Valve Springs $30
    KB112 Hardened Valve Locks $6
    KB113 Perfect Circle Valve Seals $9
    KB116 Special Crank Gear To Advance Timing $12
    KB125 Rod Bearings $26
    KB126 Main Bearings $26
    KB127 Cam Bearings $11
    KB131 Perfect Circle Moly Rings $60
    KB178 Timing Chain $11
    KB179 Hardened Cam Gear $11
    KB 182 Timing Cover With Oil Mods ( can't make out Price)
    KB184 Racing Pulleys MISSING
    KB181 Large Oil Pickup $10

    Some Prices Are Hard To Read and May Not Be Correct

    GM part numbers that I have found

    Head Gaskets 1236030
    Intake Gasket 1394705
    Oil Pan Gasket 1396972
    Stage 1 fuel pump 051P40804
    AC GM Pf-24 Oil Filter
    Timing Cover 1246055
    Oil Filter Assembly H-1382760
    Harmonic balancer 1233832 S4
    Crank pulley 1375142
    Water Pump Pulley 1375141
    New GM Start ( Didn't get #s Yet )

    Also got Koni Adjustable Shocks Front And Rear

    Still In The Process of Cleaning and Lubing Everything Up Will update as we Go
     

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  2. 1970stage1455

    1970stage1455 Well-Known Member

    More pictures
     

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  3. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    Nice nostalgic find! You beat Jason Cook to that one.....
     
  4. 1970stage1455

    1970stage1455 Well-Known Member

    More pictures
     

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  5. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Great deal there
     
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  6. gs66

    gs66 Silver Level contributor

    Very nice find, congrats!
     
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  7. Julian

    Julian Well-Known Member

    Wow! I want to see more on the heads
     
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  8. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Score!!!
     
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  9. Herman Gross

    Herman Gross Well-Known Member

    Did the lady happen to give you a flow sheet on the heads? KB farmed out their head porting to some guy and I was wondering what the flow numbers were for the Stage III KB heads.
     
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  10. bill lagna

    bill lagna Well-Known Member

    Saw the add and didn't call because of the 76 block LOL
    GREAT BUY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Bill
     
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  11. 1970stage1455

    1970stage1455 Well-Known Member

    Yes flow sheets were included but I think they are standard that everyone got
     
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  12. No Lift

    No Lift Platinum Level Contributor

    Nice! What a deal. That sure was a high dollar operation to get it all done by KB! Shame they didn't keep some WD-40 on everything. Still a great deal. The heads flow very good and are worth that much. Should run 11's with no problem. Looks like they skimmed the deck a smidge. I'd check out how deep the pistons are in the hole before using the .020" steel shim head gaskets to make sure you have at least .040" clearance. With those pistons and gasket compression is going to be 12+ I'm sure. That seems to be a MKc118 cam which won't bleed off much pressure for use with pump gas so be prepared. The rust on the valve springs is a bit iffy but that cam is not a monster so they should hold up. Anything more serious and I'd change them.
     
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  13. 1970stage1455

    1970stage1455 Well-Known Member

    The good thing is he did turn it over every couple years, used a flat edge and came up with .20 from piston to deck with a feeler gauge everything came up very well even the valve springs and took off all the loose rust on them. I can't find the ratio of the pistons but I'm thinking they are 10.25 to 1 the catalog just says UPTO 14 to 1
     
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  14. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Has the block been decked ?
     
  15. 1970stage1455

    1970stage1455 Well-Known Member

    Im not sure to be honest the lady didn't know much and only thing on the paper work is. "machine work"
     
  16. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Is the piston even with the deck when it's all the way up to the top ?
     
  17. 1970stage1455

    1970stage1455 Well-Known Member

    With a flat edge and feeler gauges I get .20 not sure what stock is
     
  18. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    OK so the Pistons are .20 in the hole. My stage two engine was decked and the pistons with Valve reliefs is just about even in the hole compression is 13 1/2 to 1 I say you're close to 11 1/2 or more compression depending on what gasket you use and exactly what the use of the car would be for street or race.
     

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  19. 1970stage1455

    1970stage1455 Well-Known Member

    Mostly street driven almost 7k miles last year may run it once in awhile want to run 92 pump gas is the plan. do you think that would be fine to use?
     
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  20. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    With iron heads it would be close how many sets of steel gaskets do you have ?
     

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