You SURE that's a 72 Stage1?

Discussion in 'Ebay Parts and Cars' started by jbc455, Oct 21, 2003.

  1. jbc455

    jbc455 Between cars...

    Hmmm.

    The VIN listed belongs to a Skylark Custom 350-2 barrel. :puzzled:

    Buyer Beware

    Link

    John
     
  2. GSXMEN

    GSXMEN Got Jesus?

    Hopefully, it's just a typo!!:Dou:

    The build #'s are only about 1100 or so earlier than my '72 Stage 1.

    That 'D' would have to be a 'G'.....not sure what plant was the 'H'.
     
  3. leo455

    leo455 LAB MAN

    72 Stage 1

    Look at the interior. It's all wrong. GS's had woodgrain and the emblom on the grill is were?:blast:
     
  4. Brad Conley

    Brad Conley Guest

    Plant code H is Flint.

    In all reality, it looks like he's advertising the car correctly...says it's a Skylark with a 455 Stage 1. At least that's the way I took his ad.
     
  5. Technically, it probably is a pretty accurate description, since he doesn't call it a GS anywhere. But I would call it deceptive. An unknowing potential buyer might get the distinct impression that it is a Stage 1 car, and his text refers to several GSX options. Someone that doesn't know Buicks could overspend for the car.
     
  6. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    I suppose it could be thought of as deceptive, but, the buyer is responsible for being "aware" is he not?

    This guy might not even know the difference. I suppose he could go one step further and say "this is not a GS", but in calling it a Skylark, does he even need to?

    Not ranting, just blabbing more or less.. :pp
     
  7. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    I don't believe anything is deceiving...

    I agree - it's always a buyer beware world we live in. At least it still has a VIN plate attached to the dash :Dou:

    The VIN is (thankfully) listed and can be researched accordingly, and the ad states 'Skylark'. Looks like a pretty decent clone :TU:

    There is enough information around, both here and in books to accurately decipher this car.

    Thanks to GM for finally putting motor codes in the car's VIN starting in 1972 :beer

    PS - the only GSX option I see is a rear spoiler :Do No:
     
  8. jbc455

    jbc455 Between cars...

    Re: I don't believe anything is deceiving...

    Creative advertising at best, deceptive at worst. :mad:

    John
     
  9. cjp69

    cjp69 Gold Level Contributor

    I think he is probably advertising the car as a real Stage 1. Ebay doesn't have a "GS" category, so you either have to put your GS in "Skylark" or "Other", and many people seem to chose Skylark, since it is the same body style.

    His ad doesn't say Skylark anywhere, that is just the ebay category he is in. Here is his ad from cctol.com:

    1972 BUICK GRAND SPORT, 455 Stage 1, headers, dual 2 1/2 aluminum pipes, flux fast mufflers, a/c, front disc brakes, all OEM parts, $13, 000 or best offer, 630-782-6261 Villa Park.

    Hopefully the ebay ad is just a typo and it really is a Stage 1 car.:Do No:
     
  10. Marco

    Marco Well-Known Member

    Whatever...

    Buyer Beware

    At least is not as bad as the blatant deceit of THIS CAR, listed yet again :rolleyes:

    BS, as this dealer has been informed multiple times the car is a Skylark. :af:
     
  11. Re: Whatever...

     
  12. Re: Whatever...

    At least he does state this:

     
  13. GSXMEN

    GSXMEN Got Jesus?

    What does the first 'H' stand for - the one before the 2??

    Thanks.
     
  14. cjp69

    cjp69 Gold Level Contributor

    Scott, that is the engine code. Here is the breakdown for a 72 VIN:

    1972 Models
    1st Digit - Division
    4 = Buick
    2nd Digit - Series
    D = Skylark
    F = Sportwagon
    G = GS
    H = Skylark Custom
    3rd and 4th Digits - Body Style
    27 = 2 Door Post Coupe
    36 = 4 Door Station Wagon
    37 = 2 Door Hardtop Coupe
    39 = 4 Door Hardtop Sedan
    67 = 2 Door Converible
    69 = 4 Door Sedan
    5th Digit - Engine Code
    H = 350-2bbl V8
    J = 350-4bbl V8
    K = 350-4bbl V8 (GS)
    U = 455-4bbl V8 (GS455)
    V = 455-4bbl V8 (Stage 1)
    6th Digit - Model Year
    2 = 1972
    7th Digit - Assembly Plant
    C = South Gate, MI
    G = Framingham, MA
    H = Flint, MI
    X = Fairfax, KS
    Y = Wilmington, DE
    Z = Freemont, CA
    Last 6 Digits - Production Numb
     
  15. jbc455

    jbc455 Between cars...

    According to the posted info, the first "H" is actually the Series.

    I emailed the seller asking him why the VIN indicated Skylark 2 barrel. His reply?

    "You're right! It's a Skylark with a Stage1 out of a wrecked 70 GSX".

    How unethical. :puzzled:

    I sincerely hope nobody buys this thing thinking it's the real deal.

    John
     
  16. GSXMEN

    GSXMEN Got Jesus?

    Thanks Chris! I thought I had the above breakdown saved somewhere....apparently not.
     
  17. cjp69

    cjp69 Gold Level Contributor

    Here is where I go for quick referencing:

    GS VIN Decoding

    I think I got the link from Marco's website!

    And even though you didn't ask, here is good one for production numbers!

    GS Production Numbers
     
  18. cjp69

    cjp69 Gold Level Contributor

    True, but Scott I think Scott was referring to the first "H" that appeared in this car's VIN, which would actually be the Fifth digit (engine code), as this car has a "D" for the series.
     
  19. GSXMEN

    GSXMEN Got Jesus?

    :Dou: :Dou:

    I hate forgetting stuff like that!!:spank: Well....maybe THIS time, I'll remember it!!:Brow: :grin:
     
  20. cjp69

    cjp69 Gold Level Contributor

    Just bookmark it, and create a folder called "Buick Links", that's a lot easier than having to remember!:grin:
     

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