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What is this rear end

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by jmbarber, Jun 7, 2020.

  1. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    This doesn't have the tabs at 5 and 7, but is it still an 8.5?
     

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  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Front yoke- u joint retention, u bolts or brackets and cap screws?
     
  3. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    Is that clear enough to see?
     

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  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No, are those holes threaded or smooth?
     
  5. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    8.5's have the straps and bolts, 8.2's have the U bolts.

    UjointRetention.jpg
     
  6. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    It is smooth, so 8.2? Does that seem right for my 69 Stage 1?
     

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  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    yes, 68-70 was Buick only 8.2 10 bolt
     
  8. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    I had planned to put my 3.42 ring and pinion in the new rear end that came with my replacement frame. Unless that rear end is an 8.2 I won't be able to do that, correct?
     
  9. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    This is the replacement that is in the car. It looks like 8.2 as well.
     

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  10. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    I was trying to get this picture on with the one of the yolks, but lying on the pavement in the hot AZ sun I messed up.
     

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  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    There were a number of of 8.2 10 bolts. There was a 64-67 8.2 10 bolt that came in various Buick, Olds, and Pontiac cars, and the 68-70 BUICK ONLY 8.2 10 bolt. They are different rear ends. I don't know exactly what you have there, so I can't tell you definitely.

    http://www.jdrace.com/content/diff_id/10bBOP_Early.php

    http://www.jdrace.com/content/diff_id/10bBOP_Pontiac.php

    http://www.jdrace.com/content/diff_id/10bBOP_Buick.php

    V8 members Monzaz, and Brian Trick are the experts. I suggest you contact them.

    http://v8buick.com/index.php?members/monzaz.3880/

    http://v8buick.com/index.php?members/briantrick.24887/
     
  12. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    I like to try to call this rear a 8.25 so we can differ the 8.2 early 64-67 Buick from the 68-70 Buick
    the 68 - 70 Buick castings are 700 and 724 last three digits...IF so ...yes your going to be hard pressed to find the gears for this rear.
    Fabcraft was making them...BUT they are not giving a ton of confidence that they will be producing these ring and pinions again.
    I wish they would give the specs to a bigger company like Randys world wide or Motive gear and have them make the gears so we can keep these rear usable instead of everyone dumping them into the scrap yards. :(
    It is a well built rear and designed to handle good power.... But with out parts that is just not going to keep them under cars.

    Jim
    JD Race
     
  13. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    Jim is correct. It is the 68-70 Buick rear. 8.2” or whatever you want to call it.
    It’s a posi. What is the ratio that is in it now?
     
  14. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    In the car now is the replacement which drives like a high 2 ratio. My factory original is a 3.42. If that gear is serviceable can they be switched?
     
  15. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    These are the only numbers I could find on the currently installed axle. If they would help I can do a tracing.
     

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  16. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    no those are check digits... for comparison ....
    look passenger side below or above the webbing should be there. 6-7 digit number cast in ...larger numbers than the check digits.
     
  17. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    if the rear is in the car...Likely you will need a mirror to see above the webbing.
    I am very familiar with the casting characteristic of the 8.25 and YOU have it. :( sorry to say.
     
  18. jmbarber

    jmbarber Well-Known Member

    It isn't a problem for me if the rear end is weak for hard use because I am not driving that way. I am trying to keep the car original because it is a numbers matching car. That is why I want to switch to my original 3.42 gear set. If the two rear ends are the same I should be able to do that correct?
     
  19. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    Ok...totally misunderstanding

    So the rusty one at the beginning is one rear with 3.42 posi and the shiney black one is the open?
     
  20. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    YES they are the same rear. 68 - 70.

    BUT do not always think you can just bolt in the one guts from the other and just be done. YOU will still need to double check backlash pattern depth etc.
    I wish they were all machined that well...lol.
    Give it a shot see how it goes.
    THEY are totally interchangeable guts for sure. But again I say whether the pinion shim depth and carrier shims are going to work out exact is another question all together.

    Jim
    JD Race
     

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