what is this all about !!!!

Discussion in 'The "Other" Bench' started by Ryans-GSX, Dec 23, 2003.

  1. Ryans-GSX

    Ryans-GSX Have fun, life is short.

    I sold a 1970 GS 350 a few weeks ago and the man brought to my attention that the vin # does not show that the car I have is a GS so I whent to marco's web page and folowed the links to vin# decoding and this is what I got note that a 1970 GS 350 and 1970 Skylark are the same code my first part of the vin is 43437H and I would like to know how to prove it is a real GS the man that bought it is not backing out he just is concerned like me about clones !!! please let me know thanks


    Vehicle Identification Plates



    1965-1971 Models



    1st Digit - Division
    4 = Buick
    2nd and 3rd Digits - Series
    33 = Special V6 (1965-67)
    33 = Deluxe L6 (1968-69)
    33 = Skylark L6 (1970-71)
    34 = Special V8 (1965-67)
    34 = Special Deluxe V8 (1968-69)
    34 = GS350 (1968-70)
    34 = GS (1971)
    34 = Skylark V8 (1970-71)
    34 = Sportwagon V8 (1970-71)
    35 = Special Deluxe V6 (1965-67)
    35 = Skylark V6 (1968-69)
    35 = Skylark 350 (1970-71)
    36 = Special Deluxe V8 (1965-67)
    36 = Skylark V8 (1968-69)
    41 = Sportwagon V6 (1965)
    42 = Sportwagon V8 (1965)
    43 = Skylark V6 (1965-67)
    44 = Skylark V8 (1965-67)
    44 = Skylark Custom (1968-71)
    44 = Sportwagon V8 (1967-69)
    46 = Skylark Gran Sport (1964-66)
    46 = GS400 (1967-69)
    46 = GS455 (1970)
    48 = Sportwagon Custom V8 (1967-69)
    4th and 5th Digits - Body Code
    07 = 2 Door Post Coupe
    17 = 2 Door Hardtop Coupe
    27 = 2 Door Post Coupe
    35 = 4 Door Station Wagon
    36 = 4 Door Station Wagon
    37 = 2 Door Hardtop Coupe
    39 = 4 Door Hardtop Sedan
    55 = 4 Door Sportwagon
    56 = 4 Door Sportwagon Custom
    65 = 4 Door Sportwagon
    66 = 4 Door Sportwagon Custom
    67 = 2 Door Convertible
    69 = 4 Door Sedan
    6th Digit - Model Year
    5 = 1965
    6 = 1966
    7 = 1967
    8 = 1968
    9 = 1969
    0 = 1970
    1 = 1971
    7th Digit - Assembly Plant Code
    B = Baltimore, MD
    C = South Gate, CA
    D = Atlanta, GA
    G = Framingham, MA
    H = Flint, MI
    I = Oshawa, Ontario (Canada)
    K = Kansas City, MO
    V = Bloomfield, IL
    X = Kansas City, KS
    Y = Wilmington, DE
    Z = Fremont, CA
    Last 6 Digits - Production Number
     
  2. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    4 = Buick

    34 = GS350 (1968-70)
     
  3. Ryans-GSX

    Ryans-GSX Have fun, life is short.

    look at the skylark 1970 it is 34 also !!!
     
  4. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    It's wrong.

    33 = 70-71 Skylark

    34 = 65-67 Special V8 including 67 GS340, 68-70 GS350, 68-69 Special Deluxe wagon, 70-71 Sportwagon, 71 GS
     
  5. Ryans-GSX

    Ryans-GSX Have fun, life is short.

    OK not to be a smarty pants but I need prof where did you get info
     
  6. Ryans-GSX

    Ryans-GSX Have fun, life is short.

    note 33 is the skylark L6 and 34 is skylark V8 "this is a mess"
     
  7. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    yes a big mess:laugh:

    I looked in the year one catalog. I'm pretty sure the GS350 in 1970 has its own VIN designation - and the 71 GS does not. You can only distinguish a GS from a Skylark....

    I'll try to dig up a trhead with more info!
     
  8. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

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    Smartin Guest

  10. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    4 34 37 ? H

    4 = Buick

    34 = GS

    37 = 2 drs HT coupe

    ? Where's the 0 for 1970 modelyear?????

    H = Flint factory



    Regular Skylark = 33

    GS 455 = 46

    look at the Body Number plate under the bonnet for the modelnumber for extra proof, GS is ST 70 43437


    Want a scan from 2 different books for proof?
     
  11. Ryans-GSX

    Ryans-GSX Have fun, life is short.

    opps the number is 434370H forgot the o my bad thanks guys I am not trying to be a pain its just if you look at the line 34 = GS350 (1968-70) then go down two lines it says 34 = Skylark V8 (1970-71) this is what my concern is 1970 is 34 for both according to the web page linked by marcos page I looked that the cowl tag and it does indeed say ST 70 43437 does this prove it is a GS I dont know again I want to stress I am not tring to be a pain I just see this and I am concerned do you all see what I am talking about or is it just me ?????????
     
  12. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    Ryan,

    When typing a long list like that, you can get some things wrong.
    We all depend on info given to us by books, internet or maybe the Sloan museum.
    I found the info I gave you in 3 different books from different publishers, what are the ods they all typed it wrong?

    As I asked you before: Do you want scans from two of the books to show to the person that bought the car?

    Or make a deal with him:
    Ask the Sloan museum to decode the VIN, if it's a true GS the buyer pays for the document, if it's not a true GS all costs are for you.
     
  13. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

    The 70 GS350 had its own VIN designation: 434370H

    Just like Erik pointed out -

    I think you're in the clear...it's a real GS :bglasses: :TU:
     
  14. Smartin

    Smartin Guest

  15. Ryans-GSX

    Ryans-GSX Have fun, life is short.

    yes thats the page and marco PMed me and told me he emailed them about the error and said he would try to direct me to a more acurate web page thanks for helping me out and Erik yes I that would be great to get the scans email address is ryancraig@triad.rr.com thanks agian
     
  16. GS-XNR

    GS-XNR Well-Known Member

  17. Bad Boattail

    Bad Boattail Guest

    Ryan,

    Three scans just crossed the ocean...........:laugh:
     

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