VERY Disapointed!

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Cali72's, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    No my bushings are fine I just rebuilt the whole rear end.I put air shocks on because I had 2 alpine type r 15's so I needed them to lift the ass end up.I have KYB shocks in the front probably gonna get the same for the rear.:Dou:
     
  2. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Forsure, the only other way I would go over a SP-th400 trans is with a 200-R4 using a 3000 stall and the lockup converter. The problem with the manual lockup setup is that as well as being a pain in the but it is also dangerous for the trans if you do not manually shutoff the lockup on deceleration (even if you just let off the gas to let a car in on the hwy).

    There are many ways to run the 200R4 lockup including vacuum operated setups, speed required setups, ect. Some run the lockup with two or more permisives like "over 50 mph and in 4th gear only".

    There were some years of GM cars that came with Olds 307 carbed engine and the 200-R4 which are god donor cars for 200R4 swaps since everything is there for a carb application.
     
  3. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Get the adjustable ones. The 850 Holley will work good if you have a TA intake. If you have a Stock intake it is better to run the Q-Jet. This carb will run better with this intake. Use a 4 hole spacer with the Q-Jet This will help bump up the Horsepower. Take the Holley if you get a Good deal on it. The carb alone is not going to give that much power. It is going to add where it needs it. This could be 20 horse though. You will be able to spray anywhere from 50 to 100 hp without any problems. There are enough of us around here to help you out on that.:beer
     
  4. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I have heard of people having to use valve reliefs with the 310 cam.

    This is hit and miss, every engine is different and valve to piston clearance must be measured on EVERY application with a cam that has much overlap regardless of pistons (even the low comp pistons still hit the valves with a big cam since the dish is only in the center and the valves hit close to the bore edge).
     
  5. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Does the rear end hop only when you brake stand the car? What about when you hold the brake on, rev to 2000 and then let go of the brake and punch it? No need to do a burn out to get a good launch on the street.
     
  6. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    Only when I do a break stand.I wanted to do a big old nasty one like the guy with the 69 did in his video he posted in the forums.The guy said hell sell me the holley for 100$ and he has a rebuild kit for so I think ima grab it being that I do have the TA intake.When I get some money I might grab the 310 cam and see how it goes,because I was looking at the specs on it and the comp one I have, and the lift isnt that much more at .50.Im not a wizard yet at rebuilding engines yet but I think I might have enough clearance with it.But anyhow not gonna know until I have the money and if I dont ill just save some $$ and get some notched 10:1 pistons. Thanks again for all the help guys, wish I was member when I rebuilt my engine last august:Dou: :beer :beer
     
  7. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    This thread sure is long now haha:TU: :TU:
     
  8. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN

    For a 100 bucks I'd take a shot. You could always sell it to recoupe your cash if it don't work out.
     
  9. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN

    That's the kind of help you get around buick people!LOL
     
  10. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    Indeed my friend indeed.Well on a good note put down a 91 5.0 Gt today and some ****ty ass honda still got my sites set on the cobra though:blast:
     
  11. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    get rid of your air shocks if you want traction.
    I would much rather leave the stang behind you than see who could burn the tires the longest.
     
  12. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    Yea I know but i told him yea you might have beat me right now but I can do a better burnout:Dou: Lol didnt work either
     
  13. Joe65SkylarkGS

    Joe65SkylarkGS 462 ina 65 Lark / GN





    Sweeeet!!!!!

    Any stang kill is a great kill!!!:bglasses:
     
  14. monetpit73

    monetpit73 big john

    hey cali, read some good stuff here. should get you on the right track:TU:
     
  15. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    Dont know what cam to use right now the Ta 212 doesnt seem like much of an upgrade over my comp one how about the TA 290 anyone run that one? just gonna keep studying for now and see how it goes and get the double pumper tommorrow and then a nitrous kit on the first or the 5th. The Va is weird with my disability checks some months:Do No: .
     
  16. monetpit73

    monetpit73 big john

    sweet. do what you gatta do. for sure do the research, hell find some one witha decktop dyno and crunch numbers. see what happens
     
  17. NJBuickRacer

    NJBuickRacer I'd rather be racing...

    With that much work, you should be a lot quicker than a bolt-on NA Cobra(usually low 14s from what I've seen). I've picked off a couple at the track with a lot less done to my car. Put a wideband on it to get your A/Fs dialed in and set your timing curve up according to the instructions that are all over this board.
     
  18. Lightningbird

    Lightningbird Well-Known Member

    OK, I'll be the first one....the 310 camshaft will work with stock 10.25:1 pistons. I have a '69 SBB with the funky rocker system and with the higher ratio and stock pistons with milled heads. NO PROBLEMS. Just check it, and use which ever head gasket accordingly. I used to wind it up to about 6500 until I shift. If you ported those 72 heads....I would have to say your combo would be about the same as mine (If you use a 310). I was really disappointed when I first put it together, but I figured it out over the years. It's the duration on the cam...you loose quite a bit of compression so it can be compensated with timing. It's hard to gnats ass the thing while using pump gas. If you poured a little VP in the tank....woah look out. My combo used to be good for 13.20's easy and that was with too much converter 3500-4000.
    If you go with the 212 you can retain some of the compression so less timing can be added before detonation. Please look at the 212 specs and the 268 specs...I think there is more difference. The 268 runs like poo and the 212 is the best street cam you can buy.

    I'm not saying that the 268 is crap...it is just a SBC grind on a SBB blank. Works good for the oil leaking, my mother could build one in a sand box that runs 10's, SBC crowd. For the goin' class crowd....use the proven cams. I think some seroius tuning would get you what you are looking for, plus playing with some rocker arm ratio's. Find the best set of factory rockers for your motor (highest lift, lite weight). We used to go to the J-Yard and pull 10 sets of rockers and build a "perfect stocker class set of rockers". I would go with the Q-Jet cause Mark is right, the small front barrels allow for the best throttle response. Use a vacuum gauge and timing light to dial in the carb and timing. It should pull the highest vacuum when running most efficient. Thats when you are ball park and start changing a few things (secondary metering rods, mechanical advance weights or springs) using the Butt Dyno will not work for this, so make sure to use a dyno, dragstrip or G-Tech at a minimum.

    I think that when I am home on leave, I might try and build a stock appearing SBB Mustang eater.
     
  19. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    Home on leave?? What branch you in.So yea ima get a new carb first either get that double pumper off my friend or ask my dad WTF did he do with my q-jet when I was in Iraq.
     
  20. mhgs

    mhgs it just takes money !!

    the 310 I was using used no piston notches ( 10.4-1 measured )and that was 2 degrees advanced. Yes I used ALOT of timing as lightningbird is correct...You can with that much duration get back some of the low end by advancing it way quick with alot of initial timing. But he is also correct that when you get it going ( 3200 + ) it goes real damn good
     

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