Top Pump Bleeding?

Discussion in 'The ragtop shop' started by BuickV8Mike, Jun 1, 2020.

  1. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    Dies the manual cover it best, I thought I saw a bit somewhere but are unable to find it now? Ha Ha Ha
     
  2. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Gold Level Monkey

  3. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    With the top in the down position remove the rubber plug on the side & fill it with Dex 3 ATF. Put the plug back in & cycle it a few times. Do the same again. IF you fill it with the top up it will blow out the rubber plug. Now you'll have a mess to clean up because you over filled it.
     
  4. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    I'd like to get the air out. It has been up and down a lot, but I still have air in the lines. Ill try without the plug.

    Thanks,
    Mike
     
  5. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Somethings leaking causing it to suck air & maybe not leaking fluid. Could be the gasket between the motor & reservoir.
     
  6. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    Tom, Interesting. I saw a bit on bleeding these on the Forum here but I cant seems to find it. Can you buy a rebuild kit, do have have any sense of the difficulty rebuilding one of these yourself? I wouldn't think its too complicated.

    Thanks for the info,
    Mike
     
  7. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Honestly Mike I have never tried to rebuild one as they are available new for reasonable $$$.

    Tom T.
     
  8. BIG FRANK JOHNSON

    BIG FRANK JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Tom I used the top filling apparatus that is shown above. When I pump the fluid in, the pressure blows the hose out. Am ?I using this filler the right way?
    Should the short hose be plugged or blocked? Also can the rubber plug be replaced with a metal one? The top will not cycle one way or the other. But the motor runs. Thanks Frank
     
  9. Briz

    Briz Platinum Level Contributor

    Got that fill / bleed kit with the new pump and cylinders for a 70 225. it worked perfect the first time. no issues, no mess. if you were close id lend it to ya or do it for ya.
     
  10. BIG FRANK JOHNSON

    BIG FRANK JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    Thank you Briz. I have one. Just trying to figure out if I used it the right way. When I pumped the fluid the air inside kept wanting to blow the fitting out. There was no way the air could escape. Frank
     
  11. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    I would think you need to VACUUM the reservoir while allowing fluid to enter somehow. Did it come with instructions?
     
  12. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    Mike, I used Item H139 from AMES to bleed my system. It's a replica of what GM used, very primitive, very effective, reuseable, and very inexpensive at 20.00 or so.
     
  13. BuickV8Mike

    BuickV8Mike SD Buick Fan

    Thanks Frank! I'd love to see what you have to say on trimming my outer 1/4 window fuzzies in the RagTop section if you had a moment. :):):)
     
  14. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    This is the item that Frank has posted about. Maybe he can post you the instruction sheet. You could make the kit yourself.
    Nelson



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  15. Briz

    Briz Platinum Level Contributor

    Did you release the clip that pinches off the line? That allows air to flow back into the bottle. I'll have to look at mine to see if there is a air bleed in the bottle itself
     
  16. BIG FRANK JOHNSON

    BIG FRANK JOHNSON Well-Known Member

    briz I just figured it out. Also ?I think the top has to be operating while filling. Frank
     
  17. Briz

    Briz Platinum Level Contributor

    The instructions said to push the filler into the hole on the motor and pump 6-8 squirts of fluid into a dry reservoir. Then release the clamp and operate the top up and down until there are no more bubbles in the line. The pump will push air out into the bottle and suck fluid into the pump until its where it needs to be. First time, I tried to do it without the kit and made a heck of a mess.
     
  18. black70buick

    black70buick Well-Known Member

    I had to replace one ram, I filled the reservoir and manually pulled the top up and down 3 times (two man job) and checking the reservoir when top down. Air quickly evacuated the system. Work perfectly. No mess.
     

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