To brake or not to brake that's the question

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by Buizila, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    we have TCI in all our cars.
    gary
     
  2. John Stevens

    John Stevens Well-Known Member

    Have a Coan in my T400, has worked great for almost 20 years now, not many street miles anymore though.....
     
  3. stagetwo65

    stagetwo65 Wheelie King

    Transmission Specialties sells good stuff too.
     
  4. MT BUICKNUT

    MT BUICKNUT Well-Known Member

    I am just throwing this out there and not sure if I'm correct or not. If you have a trans brake you will have a reverse pattern for sure unless you get some one to build you a specific valve body. Now this is the one thing I am not sure of, I don't think you will have engine braking????. I had a full manual valve body in one car and didn't have any, so I'm not sure about the TB body. I have one in my race car but never payed any attention to it. Maybe this doesn't matter.
    Thanks Rick
     
  5. Buizila

    Buizila GO BROWNS !!!!!!

    Hey John long time no chat. Thanx for the lead but I already have this one built up and new. Just need to install the brake
     
  6. gymracer01

    gymracer01 Well-Known Member

    I know I'm in a minority here, but I have no use for a trans-brake. I have one in my car and have had it in the car since I built it in 2001. I have only made a few Trans-brake passes with it. It will not 60' or et any better with or without the trans brake verse footbrake. I ran it when the car was new in Bowling Green at the 2002 Nationals and it was fun but not faster. About the best thing about it is I have a real great picture of me and Gary running during qualifying. Both red cars were in the air. I have a trans-brake convertor made by a top name company and after several years of racing I sent it back to have it gone through and all was well and there is no difference after either. The last time I tried it, I was within less than .005 second both ways. I can't use it in Nostaliga Super Stock anyway, so I have the soleniod off and use a plug in the hole. If you are winning they think you are cheating by using the brake, so I avoid that by removing the soleniod.
    Jim Netherland
     
  7. Thumper (aka greatscat)

    Thumper (aka greatscat) Well-Known Member

    Jims Right,et wise theres not much difference,but for bracket racing ,especially when using a delay box,its more consistent run after run.
    I'd like to see that pic.
    gary
     
  8. GS Kubisch

    GS Kubisch THE "CUT-UP" BUICK

    I'm curious Mike.....What do you expect to gain w/a TB?
     
  9. Buizila

    Buizila GO BROWNS !!!!!!

    Hopefully,a lot harder launches and better 60' times. I do know that every car is different and some have gains and others don't. Now many people have told me that they don't see any change in ET with or without a brake. But,correct me if I wrong,if a car leaves harder and lowers the 60 times and the motor is pulling at the top end, why wouldn't you get to the finish line faster. I really believe my setup will benefit with the brake. Plus who doesn't like wheelies they're fun and they make you :laugh:
     
  10. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    ....break stuff.
     
  11. ThunderKiss65

    ThunderKiss65 Well-Known Member

    Running a transbrake would have no effect on driving the car on the street. You only use the brake when you are at the track.

    Now, most valvebodys with brakes are reverse manual. It becomes normal routine shifting a manual valvebody, there is nothing to it.

    All of the manual valve bodys I've had in my cars were simple to down shift. You can go from 3rd to 1st at 100mph and nothing would happen. The trans would just freewheel. In a normal valve body it you are going 100 and drop it to first gear you may do some damage.
     
  12. gymracer01

    gymracer01 Well-Known Member

    I will agree with "break stuff". Right after running the 2002 Nationals on the brake, I go to Rising Sun, Maryland to race and the second time trial I break a ring and pinion. So my fun for a Friday night was installing a new one in a 12 bolt. Got it going ok and made it to the semi finals. I just don't like how hard it hits stuff. I will agree with Gary, if you are going to run with the Big Boys and run Super Pro on a box, it is a must have.
    Jim N.
     
  13. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I'm happy as can be with the manual shifting.

    Upshifting towards reverse is always a worry, luckily the detents in my column are working great as long as I make a conscious effort to put forward pressure on the stalk. I'm considering a reverse pattern valve body on the next rebuild.

    Devon
     

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