Wow..... didn't think the 113 would do that well. Looks like it hangs right there with the 212 and then keeps going after 5000. Here is the graph comparing it to the 212. It does lag behind in the torque department though.
Thanks How about the 212 vs the 413. I have 4.11s and go through the traps at 6000. I have some 3.73s that may be the best bet.
the TA catalog claims a 40hp increase with the 113 and i believe 25hp with the 212, right? then why does the 212 do better in the sim dynos? anyone know anything on the 310? is it an easily streetable cam, or does is need a lot of valve train work to run well?
TA 310 Excellent street and strip cam . At least 9.5:1 compression recommended. You'll know that you put a cam in. Stock rockers ok. Must use TA valve springs, retainers and lifters. Power brakes ok. Fair Idle
I was going to get the 310, but Dave @ TA performance said I would have to have notched pistons to use it. Dunno if it was true or not......I took it that way, and thats why I got the 212 instead.
About the same story here. the 212 out pulls it in torque and HP until about 5k. If you are running to 6k, the 413 would be a good choice.
i'd be concerned with vacuum if it was for a street ride with anything more than the 212 while the other cams make more after 5k your still *getting ready to start* heading down the backside of both the power and tq curves by then
Mike A. Any chance you could run this Crower grind with 10:1 compression? LC - Adv. Dur. - Dur@.050 - lobe lift - gross lift 108 - 296 / 302 - 230 / 242 - 317 / 314 - 507 / 504 Thanks,
ta c 113 vs 212 scott baker: i don't think you have too many problems with that crower grind as long as your heads haven't been milled too much i.e. .030-.040 ? and your block hasn't been decked too much.you are talking about piston to valve clearance, right?
Looks like about the same story as the TA413 ......lower torque, improved hp after 5000. I don't think you'd get off the line well at all unless you could wind it up and launch it.
Thanks Mike, I plan on using some 4.10 gears with a 200r4 and a higher stall lock-up converter - should get out of the hole OK. Looks like it will have a pretty wild idle!:grin: I picked the Crower cam and a TA Stage 1 350 intake up at a local car show for a VERY good price!:TU: Realistically, the TA 212 would be a much better 'driver'...oh well. Jeff - I haven't done any machining to the block or heads yet. I plan on getting the piston to deck height set at between .005 and .010 down. I'll just do a .005-.010 clean-up cut on the heads - not looking to shave alot off those. I already have some 10:1 pistons. Thanks,
Similar setup Scott, I have a similar setup like yours. 72 GS Convert. clone 3.73 w/200-4r and decent 350. Engine dyno'd 376hp @5500 and 391tq @4700. I'm running 10.5-1, ported heads, stg 1 intake, headers, 800 q-jet. Just getting it all together over the next 2 weeks. Any ideas on what mine might run in the 1/4mi?? David
David, Sounds like a very nice setup there!:TU: Pretty good numbers on your 350 too!:grin: Your motor should be putting somewhere between 300-325hp to the rear tires. Combined with a weight around 4000lbs should get you around low 13's@98-100mph. That's based on my Moroso speed calculator (slide rule). With a 26" tire and 3.73 gears, you should go the lights at 100mph and about 4800-4900rpm. What stall converter are you running - is it a lockup too?
Stall Scott, I will be running a 2500 stall with lock-up. Forgot to add my cam ... it's a Poston GS118. I wonder what a computer dyno would show for my engine ... any thoughts anyone (Mike)? David
Re: Stall Looks like I don't have the cam specs for the 118 yet. If ya got em post em here and I can make a cam file for it.
