Saw this on You Tube

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Mark Demko, Jul 26, 2021.

  1. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    The vid is kinda long, but its the whole chase, the speeds are incredible, watch at the end:eek:
     
  2. Waterboy

    Waterboy Mullet Mafia since 6/20

    Awesome!
     
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  3. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    All because he wouldn't stop after a minor traffic infraction..and it cost him his life
     
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  4. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I enjoyed watching the video, but the police were seriously stupid. They endangered who knows how many civilians? They were the cause of two vehicles being unnecessarily wrecked, and probably injured a cop. For what? They had 20 minutes to get the guy's plate number and could have been waiting for him drinking coffee, when he arrived home.
     
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  5. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Thats assuming he would of slowed down and started driving within the bounds of the law.. I guess the other side of the argument was what if they didn't stop him and he continued to drive recklessly and wound up killing a family?
     
  6. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Who says that plate is/was the drivers? In the last year people driving others cars without permission is substantially on the rise.
     
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  7. Max Damage

    Max Damage I'm working on it!

    Either way, the high speed pursuit made the situation a lot more dangerous and ultimately fatal. The wrecked cop car seriously looked horrible too. Hopefully the officers injuries weren't as bad as this looked.

    The officer had orders and followed them. I think command judgment (High speed pursuit in traffic) in this case was marginal at best.
     
  8. bballsam

    bballsam SoCal Gran Sports

    What command judgment? This is stupidity at it's highest level.
     
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  9. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I thought when pursuits get to that level of dangerous speeds that they dispatch the ghettobird eye in the sky to follow them and back off with the squad cars? Even though he was breaking the law he was still a human and probably had a family. Why did not a single person try to extract him from the vehicle to try and resuscitate him? Unless he was decapitated I thought it was their duty to try and save human life. "To serve and protect" my azz more like "hunt down and execute"
     
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  10. rmstg2

    rmstg2 Gold Level Contributor

    I never have believed in high speed chases for a misdemeanor infraction
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

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  12. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    Dukes of Hazzard mentality. A dead good ole boy.
     
  13. Joe B

    Joe B Well-Known Member

    My thoughts exactly. Extremely bad judgement by the cops on many levels. They should have backed off, had air support if available, laid down spike strips on a clear strip of road ahead and after the truck had slowed (which he would have if the cops had backed off), then closed in. No one in command with a brain in their head is going to suggest a PIT maneuver at 109 mph on a 4 lane road. After the carnage there are at least 4 cops trying to pull the pursuit cop from his smoldering car while 2-3 cops stand, guns drawn and doing nothing, around the truck to make sure the driver doesn't make any dangerous moves. One even has a machine gun shouldered and ready to fire! No one tries to pull him from the truck or assess his condition. Extremely poor showing by the cops that probably opened them up to lawsuits for endangering the public.
     
  14. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Spike strips have risks also. A Nevada police officer just died as a result of getting hit while deploying a set of strips.
    I believe the driver carjacked his wheels (so plate I'd is irrelevant) after an additional 20 miles the driver was shot and killed.(looked to be a pillar of the community) :rolleyes:
    Without being in law enforcement, it is easy to say what should go on.
    Support law enforcement, "Don't do stupid and illegal stuff"
     
  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Seriously? All mitigation in a situation like this has risks. Spike strips vs. a Pit maneuver at 109 MPH? Which one is more inherently dangerous, and has the potential to cause serious injury and death? Which one would you choose to deploy? I do support law enforcement, but they do not have carte blanche to do what ever they want to do, and they are not above critical review.
     
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  16. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Its said it had to happen, but there was no way to.know that if they backed off it the truck would had ever slowed down........given the side ofbthe trucknthst hit the ditch first im guessing the driver of dead instantly....

    Man that cop car had some serious air.

    Its easy for us arm chair ppl to sit here and say they should had done this they could of done that. But till we are in that postion who knows what you would do. I think we need to remember life is about choices and certain choices have bad outcomes.......sometimes life ending. This driver had ample time to do something different........make a better choice....if your dumb enough or desperate enough to drive that way and make the choices the driver did then you accept the out come.

    Im not going say they officers could of should of done something different. I will say thank you for risking your life's every single day to help keep me and my family safer.

    Glad none of the other cars on the road got involved or the families in them hurt. And in the end that's what matter.

    I feel bad if the driver had family they left behind.......but they should had been thinking about them more than driving like that and making the choices they did. This world is getting so to point we have to blame someone else for the bad things that happen. Blame the driver who made the choice to drive over 100mph for 15 minutes straight. They put everyone else life in danger over a 25 mile section of those roads. All the driver had to do was stop.
     
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  17. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    With all the crazy technology the automakers are putting into these vehicles now a days why isn't a "kill switch" programmed into the vehicles computer considered mandatory equipment?? That way the police can just shut the vehicle down instantly and there wouldn't be a chase at all other than maybe on foot.
     
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  18. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    Clearly the police need better high speed raming tactics. Watch more nascar. The cop was too far up on tbe truck.
     
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  19. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    I am not so sure that this was a pit maneuver. In Canada, the pursuing officer and/or the Staff-Sgt and/or the Dispatcher can cancel the pursuit at any time.
     
  20. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    As to the third paragraph - I absolutely do know what I would have done, and it doesn't involve a sustained 109 mph or an attempted spinout at that speed. In an earlier post I said that it was seriously stupid and I stand by that comment.
    How do I know that the guy would have slowed down if the police broke off the pursuit (as they should have done)? Easy, there would have been no reason for him to continue at that speed, and assuming that he wasn't on fire and trying to get to an ER; the last thing that he would want would be to stand out.
     
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