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Resource to see how convertible top/ windshield trim assemble & seal

Discussion in 'The ragtop shop' started by bostoncat68, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    I'm trying to cure the leaks along the seal between the top and the top of the windshield. Perhaps the pound of window glazing putty I found in the trim is not "factory"... The rubber seal on the top is in great shape so I'm sure the issue is the trim around the windshield. Once I get it apart and cleaned up, I want to re-install and seal properly. I don't see much in the fisher guide.
     
  2. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Where is the water coming in?
     
  3. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    The stainless trim on the outside & top of the windshield appears to have been installed with a rake. The seam where the two side pieces of trim meet the top piece of stainless trim don't fit properly. No way a piece of rubber could seal this. However, I wonder if there is supposed to be a piece of weather stripping under here and wonder how it's supposed to be sealed?
     
  4. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    A common place for these things to leak is around the glass itself. Over time the glue holding things together breaks down. I had a good original windshield in my Wildcat that leaked like a sieve whenever it rained and actually started rust out the inside trim. Another common place is the header itself; the clamps over time become weak and while they look like they hold, they actually don't. My Electra has that issue now, and when I changed one of the clamps out and reduced the leak by 70%. This year the other clamp gets done.
     
  5. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    Thanks Marc, Thankfully the windshield itself has been resealed -- good point on the clamps.
     
  6. Smartin

    Smartin antiqueautomotiveservice.com Staff Member

    Typically they would use dum dum or duct seal in the gaps where those stainless pieces meet.
     
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  7. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    I took a couple of pics of the trim I'm trying to remove - not sure what holds the front edge in-place? Clips or screws (under the windshield molding??) appreciate someone's expertise... @Smartin thanks for your comments Windshield View.png Door View.png
     
  8. mrolds69

    mrolds69 "The Cure"

    I'm not familiar with big cars. The 2 vertical and 1 long molding closest to the glass are held on with clips. You need a special tool (or modified butter knife) to remove them. It looks like the glass may be set to deep. It may be set too high, holding the molding up. It may not have been set at the right angle (rake). The windshield's been replaced right? In the Rt lower corner where it's stamped...you can tell by reading it. You're going to have to get the moldings off to get a good look.
     
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  9. bostoncat68

    bostoncat68 Platinum Level Contributor

    I got all the trim off. Had to pop the window trim -- which exposed the screws for the larger trim behind it. A total mess with a combination of putty, random pieces of rubber stuffed in places and some urethane windshield glue used here and there (the windshield itself is properly installed with urethane). I've decided to remove the windshield, clean out all the crap, paint frame, install new clips, get windshield reinstalled and then try to seal the outside properly. This should get the trim sitting level so the top closes properly. As usual, fixing the "repairs" is more work than dealing with the age of the car
     
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  10. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    Good to know, thanks!
     
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