Radial vs. Bias Slicks

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by mltdwn12, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. mltdwn12

    mltdwn12 Founders Club Member

    OK, I have a price on some new MT slicks. The radials are about $55 more per tire. Whats the benefit, if any of the radial? My car's just in the 11's so I'm not trying to hook up 800 horsepower!

    Thanks
     
  2. Steve Reynolds

    Steve Reynolds SRE Inc

    Craig, I ran the Hoosier radials on my low 11 high 10 second GS and I loved them. I run them on my new drag car as well, (13.5x32 and #3040 lbs)) and with 1.24 sixty foot times it's hard to argue against them. I like the stability on the big end and the fact they MPH better than bias ply.
    The choice is all yours. :Do No:

    Steve
     
  3. mltdwn12

    mltdwn12 Founders Club Member

    Thanks for the input, do you still use rim screws on radials? I thought I read somewhere you don't. I'll be shooting you a pic tonight or tomorrow, finally making progress on the new mold!
     
  4. Steve Reynolds

    Steve Reynolds SRE Inc

    I don't remember what MT recommends, but Hoosier does not recomend using screws. Made me a little nervous at first, but I forgot about it after a few runs. Also if you decide to use radials, don't listen to people that never used them. They'll talk you into dropping the air pressure too low! I dropped them to 15 and it distrorted the tire at launch and it got cut up from the forward part of the wheel well. There is a good one inch of clearance there at stand still and they pulled forward enough to cut them up. I now keep them at 17-19 psi.

    The only negative I've heard about radials is that they are more particular on some race tracks. If they break loose they don't recover well, or at all. But when they hook, they hook good!
    Looking forward to seeing the hood shots.

    Steve
     
  5. DMoore

    DMoore Well-Known Member

    Craig

    I switched to radials (Hoosier 30x9) and they work great. I run 23 psi. Hoosier rep told me no screws. Right now i am on my 4th set.
    Everything Steve says is correct. They gave me more rpm at the traps (which the car loved) and the stability is great.
    He is also correct that if the track goes away, so do the tires. I have had them break loose on me and you are done with that run no matter what. But they do hook good when the track is good. I would recommend them to anyone. I did notice that i have got more runs out of the CO7 compound compaired to the CO6 compound.
     
  6. d7cook

    d7cook Guest

    How does the life span compare to bias ply slicks?
     
  7. DMoore

    DMoore Well-Known Member

    Doug.

    Not as good, at least for me. I dont do very big burnouts either. The first set i got 75 runs out of them, those were the C07 compound. The set of C06 compounds i only got 55 runs out of them. When i was running bias i could well over 125 runs out of them.
     
  8. K0K0

    K0K0 Jamie

    I've run 2 sets of 30x9 mt radial slicks (not dot) hooked good 1.43 60ft but only got 35-40 hits out of them. I ran 20psi, switching to 10.5 Hoosier radial to get more hits out of them.
    Jamie
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2010
  9. gymracer01

    gymracer01 Well-Known Member

    I just don't see it for my car and my type racing. One i need something that will run dead on the index everytime. Also I race alot and can still get 2 years + out of a set of M/T slicks. I have run Goodyear radials, and have M/T radials that are good but know they will not run as long or as close as the slicks. My car is daed stable at 130+, so what else do I need. It dead hooks and carries the wheels on every run if there is any track at all and if the track is bad it will only loose 1 or 2 numbers in 60' (.01"). If I had more hp and some one to pay for them I would try a set again. But for low 10's and 1.40 60'.
    Jim N.
     
  10. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    Unless drag radials have gotten much better in the last 5 or 6 years, I would choose slicks for drag-race only applications. Size for size they have always outperformed drag radials for traction in my experience.

    As for drive-ability and street, drag radials are vastly superior. Drag radials would be my choice for anything that I was driving around a lot and going to the track occasionally.

    If I had a car that was primarily a drag car and occasionally was driven on the street but I did not want to change the tires, then I would run some M&H DOT cheater slicks.

    For a drag only car, slicks are a way better bang for your buck in my opinion.
     
  11. K0K0

    K0K0 Jamie

    I think this discussion is radial slicks to bias slicks not DOT tires.
    Jamie
     
  12. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    Well, that shows you how far behind the times I am. The only radial tires I knew about were DOT drag radials with tread. Radial drag-only slicks would be something new to me.
     
  13. dosko

    dosko Well-Known Member

    Well here go's nothin. Besides my 67 Spec Deluxe thats my daily driver, I have a weekender that I bought in 1969, it's a 66 Chevelle SS 2d/ht 396/425 HP, just slightly built in 71, with a 69 Vette Turbo Hydro behind, and 411 posi.
    It's had bias MT's on it sinse 71 got 2 pair left. "not gonna run to the garage to check size right now". 15" Kragers Anyhow, theres 15"s touchin the ground, there center groove only "not street legal" but she still go's out lol. She pulls the front off in first 3 gears if I want for show. For that SS, these bias do a great job. Just thought I'd stir the pot.
    Good luck on the rubber
    Wil:3gears:
     
  14. jlhamblin

    jlhamblin Jeff Hamblin

    Heres My 2 Cents Worth Cause Thats All I Have Left
    A Customer Left A Pair Of Worn Out 275/60r15 Mt's. I Put Them On My Car To Just See If They Would Fit With Wheel Offset, A Friend Ordered A New Set Of Hoosier Drags 28x10s For Me. In The Meantime I Ended Up @ Strip
    Car Ran 1 Tenth Quicker & 8mph Faster With Worn Out Radials Than With New Hoosiers
    Or... You Could Put One On Each Side & See Which Side Gets There First ! Let Me Know If You Decide To Try That I Want To Watch
     
  15. speedtigger

    speedtigger 9 Second Club

    I hope you mean .8 mph faster and not a full 8 mph faster. If so, check to see if you left the parking brake on!
     
  16. jake csordas

    jake csordas Well-Known Member

    obviously this is for radial slicks versus bias slicks. i see some people making the confusion of drag radials. either way my 2 cents from experience is the hoosier radial slicks are the way to go especially for the speed and et you are going. they will work great and be fine with the 30 by 9 as long as you have 3.73 gears. on another note you can get the car to hook no problem also on the mickey thompson drag radials and these are street legal. look at the 275 60 15. also no problem with them. very fast cars running these tires. a lot of buicks running them well into the tens and nines also. the key is learning either tire. it is not the normal thinking. both tires like lots of air pressure. start at 20 psi and work up. sounds wrong but anyone that runs these tires will tell you that or your first set wont last long and you will be bummed when the car doesnt hook. also there is a learning curve for the burnout, usually most cars you just clean them off. no major smoke. all the cars that we run them on as soon as the car shifts second gear we are rolling out letting off the gas. just enough to get the tire hot.
    thats my input hope it helps.
    john jr
     
  17. Stg'd 2Discover

    Stg'd 2Discover Lumpty, Lumpty, Lumpty

    A testament to the MT 275 -60 street legal radials for the guy who see a dragstrip once in a blue moon.
    The pic below was taken at BG GS nationals this past weekend with the my street driver, no roll bar, no prep as driven in town all weekend, with switch pitch convertor and 20psi in the tires.

    These tires do hook.

    Tom
     

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