Performer plenum divider cut down, yay or nay

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  1. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    I know this has been discussed on here before but probably over 20 years ago:rolleyes:. I just wanted to see what people are saying about cutting down the plenum divider on a Performer intake. Is it worth doing for a street car? Does it have positive effects on TQ or HP gains/losses? How much is too much, what else should be done to the intake to help it perform better like gasket matching maybe? Also please post up any pics you may have:). I have a new Performer intake for my New build but I don't want to make any permanent changes that could hurt the way it performs. The Performer on my current engine IIRC when I swapped the holley 750DP for a 72 800cfm Qjet I recall noticing the rear part of the plenum divider was cut down about an inch and ground to a knife blade type edge.
     
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  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Greg Gessler did this to my Performer.

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  3. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    A small notch,maybe,but removing the entire divider will ruin the intake.
     
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  4. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Larry, that's what my current one looks like. Not sure if any port matching was done as I haven taken the intake off.
     
  5. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Also can anyone recommend a good bolt kit for the intake? I didn't get any hardware with it even though its brand new in the box and my old one looks like it was put on with hardware store bolts and washerso_O.
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I think depending on your year heads, the bolts are different sizes. TA has an intake bolt kit I think.
     
  7. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    I did extensive dyno testing on this with several engines years ago

    On a 500 HP engine, lowering the center divider 1 inch, with the proper bull nose profile, added 10 HP to the peak, and subtracted 10 foot lbs at the torque peak.

    A one inch open spacer produced the same results or was slightly better, but the divider has to be bull nosed.. if left flat, performance was the same, or actually decreased. Any kind of "shelf" left in the intake path will reduce performance, generally.

    I rarely ever do it anymore.. as torque is more important for real world driving feel, than HP is.

    The notch in the intake that Larry showed, was usually done so that you could put a 950 Three barrel Holley on it, a carb which was popular back in the day.

    JW
     
  8. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Exactly the info I was after Jim. Sholud I round over the corners on the top of the divider to create a bullnose or just leave the plenum divider alone completely and gasket/port match the runners to help with the airflow instead?
     
  9. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    DSCN4920.JPG DSCN4921.JPG When Gregg Tomlinson did my B4B he made the divider removable...great for testing. It seemed to do just what Jim said....
    My removable divider spans across the primaries as well. One problem....don't lose divider piece!
     
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  10. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    I would go further toward primaries...if you are looking to top end power. Not going to kill much torque with a dual plane...just making it a bit more like a single plane.
     
  11. 70 GMuscle

    70 GMuscle Plan B

    I used stock oem bolts.
     
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  12. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Right Larry! I remember this exactly now and I just remembered I bought a set of bolts off a member here, now just to try and remember for what headso_O?

    EDIT: found the convo, I bought a set of the TA 7/16" intake bolts for aluminum heads off another member.
     
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  13. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    I like stock bolts...on a few I had to grind the flange on the bolt some for clearance.
     
  14. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    I wouldn’t make the notch any longer than an inch.
    You can’t make a dual-plane into a single plane.
    Some signal might get better,but some will get worse.
     
  15. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    So here is my removable divider in my B4B. I tested with a Qjet and semi-open spacer (somewhat divided between primaries. Black is with center divider, blue is without divider. I lost 5 ft lbs and 2 hp from the peaks with the divider removed. The most difference is in the low rpm range, with the 2 trading elsewhere. Maybe the semi open spacer performed the same function as removing the divider. I did not test without the spacer.
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