Lower control arm bolt removal

Discussion in 'Wrenchin' Secrets' started by 436'd Skylark, Mar 7, 2004.

  1. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I'm trying to remove my lower control arms, but the damn bolts wont come out. I got the nuts off all honky-dory, but the bolts won't move. any tips on how I can get thm out. I don't have air tools, and my oxy torch is bone empty. any help would be appreciated. :Do No: :beer
     
  2. brblx

    brblx clueless

    is the load off of the arm? (spring out?)

    just get a punch and a BFH and give them a little encouraging.

    wait till you put the arms back in, then comes the fun.
     
  3. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    You need an air chisel with a long dull pointed tip that has a lot of ba!!s. If you don't have compressed air, put a nut on the end of the bolt and try driving it through back and forth a few times to break it free. The trick is not to mushroom the threaded end of the bolt or you'll be in trouble.

    I like the air chisel better b/c it is less nasty to the frame brackets and easier on the bolts.. You'll find that a torch is not very helpful here and if you aren't accurate burning off the bolt you will butcher the frame brackets. Be careful!

    If you don't have a very good air chisel now is a good time to buy one....the most powerful one you can afford. The bushings come out much easier if you do it just right with one of these. I can tell you how when you are ready. :bglasses:
     
  4. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I don't have air tools so the air chisel is kinda out. I think what I'm going to do is make like pickle fork at work tomorow that I can pound between the head of the bolt and the frame. I have a new frame so what ever happens to the old one is ok by me. I think I should probably get the springs out. I have the upper control arms off, that was cake. Keep the suggestions coming tho.
     
  5. mainebuick

    mainebuick Well-Known Member

    spray it good with whatever you have (wd40) then put a breaker bar on it , and turn the bolt. once the bolt turns freely, either put a nut on it, or use a brass drift, and a BFH (hammer), and beat it out.
     
  6. banburi

    banburi Well-Known Member

    Lower Control Arms

    I just finished this project a couple weeks ago. I highly recommend that you only remove one control arm , then either box and change bushings to that arm and reinstall before trying to remove the other side. I hope you have a comealong, as the third member will definitley pivot when you drive the first bolt out.
    I used the comealong to help hold the third member in place before changing the other arm.
    I bought the poly bushings and new bolts from HR PartsNstuff for my uppers and boxed them, but my lowers were junk so I bought their new boxed arms. Good people and nice parts.
     
  7. mainebuick

    mainebuick Well-Known Member

    come -a -long? I guess I must have been lucky. I put a p-s-t ,front end kit in, and everything came apart ok, and went together even easier, with basic hand tools. You never know.:rolleyes:
     
  8. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I think Banburi is talking about rear suspension stuff. While were talking front :TU:
     
  9. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    Joe, Frank has a good idea trying to turn the bolt first. Just be careful, I broke a breaker bar that way one day in the alignment pit on a Vega (matic). I'm still a little dizzy. (that explains it all:grin: )
     
  10. banburi

    banburi Well-Known Member

    Ooops

    Yep, I was working on the rear, not front. Sorry.
     
  11. mainebuick

    mainebuick Well-Known Member

    :Dou: sorry,I not so smart!!!
     
  12. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    If the bolt turns, but the bolt won't come out....that's the worst case. The bolt is rusted to the steel sleeve of the bushing. Soak it with a good penetrant, PB blaster and Kroil are two of the best. Then give it a few heat/cool cycles with a torch. Then try turning the bolt while beating on the other end...
    I bet the first 3 bolts came out no problem, right? It's always that LAST bolt!:rant:
     
  13. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Thats what it is, the bolt is rusted to the sleeve:Dou:
     
  14. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    :cool: I got them out last night. I torched the crap out of them, but Still had to hammer the balls out of them. The last bolt came right out tho, I must have scared it :Brow:
     
  15. mrfido

    mrfido Well-Known Member

    When all else fails get a bigger hammer or two
    mark sheppard
     
  16. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor


    Yeah, just don't miss!:eek2:

    I've tried yelling at stuck bolts, cursing them out, etc.....that doesn't seen to work, either....but I still do it :rant:

    Heat/cool cycles work the best....it expands and contracts the parts, so when you douse it with penetrant, it works in-between the frozen parts. On a tip, I've even used CANDLE WAX on some broken exhaust manifold bolts....worked like a charm!
     
  17. nailheadina67

    nailheadina67 Official Nailheader

    Candle wax? I never heard of that one.:puzzled:
     
  18. 462CID

    462CID Buick newbie since '89

    Yeah, the candle wax reminds them of punishment at Catholic School and it scares the bolts right off.
     
  19. NJBuickRacer

    NJBuickRacer I'd rather be racing...

    I used a ball joint press with great success on a couple of cars...pushes the bolt right through the sleeve. The press I have is like a giant c-clip with an open hole in the non-threaded end about 1" in diameter and it worked like a charm on the last few A Body rear suspension bolts that I've done. I'm going to see if the tool will fit in the front when I pull my front end apart for the disc brake upgrade in the next couple weeks.
     

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