Killed an AWD Turbo Talon

Discussion in 'Kill Stories (Where Hemis Never Win)' started by VinMan, Apr 30, 2005.

  1. VinMan

    VinMan Well-Known Member

    First off.... I need willpower, anyone know of a good on-line willpower company :Do No: !!! So my GSX is finally back on the road after, lets just say ...2 house moves which required tows and a lot of garage dust :ball: .

    It's a 455 that is "stock appearing" with mild head work, TA413 cam, roller rockers, stock Q-jet and opened up cast iron exhaust with mandrel out. Anyway.... it looks 100% stock right down to the AC being hooked-up (not charged though). So I just changed the oil after putting only 75miles on the new engine, it now has about 100miles on it.

    Well today I'm heading to the grocery store and this Turbo AWD Talon pulls next to me with a young kid, 20-ish (I'm 37). He has the pillar guages going and some visual mods. We take off from the light and the entire time I'm telling myself... "Don't Vince... Don't do it" . Well..... :3gears: he nails it and his tires break loose a little, I take off half throtte (can't nail it unless I want my tires to go up in smoke), he's a car and a half ahead when I finally put it to the floor. My T400 shifts into 2nd at only around 4800rpm's (thank goodness I was just in drive, don't need that new motor seeing north of 5k RPM's yet, by the time I'm mid way through 2nd gear I have caught him and I pass him a lot faster than I would have thought.

    Damn I love this new motor . I can't wait to get my John Osborne Q-jet put on and really get this beast timed & tuned. :TU:

    L8er

    VinMan out....
     
  2. skylarkroost

    skylarkroost skylarkroost

    Nice kill Vince. A little risky but nice. Just finished mine earlier this year and its real hard to show retraint during break-in. So many ricers to kill, so little time. Most of them don't have a clue that they are about to commit racing suicide when they pull up next to us old geezers at a light.
    Just wait till you get about 1,500 miles or so and that bad boy loosens up where it'll really run.
     
  3. bobc455

    bobc455 Well-Known Member

    I started to give these a bit of respect a few years ago when I got beaten by one at the dragstrip (my MPH was higher but he got to the finish line first).

    Then I lost respect again when he said that at that sort of power level, he is constantly replacing CV shafts and transmissions and clutches and everything because there is no way to make them hold together for any length of time. I think he said he typically rebuilds the transmission once per month or something.

    Now I race them whever I can, just to make them blow up another transmission!

    -Bob Cunningham
     
  4. ABben32

    ABben32 Well-Known Member

    Cool kill if I was him and if I didn't know anything about Buicks( I don't know if he does) and I saw an old looking muscle car I wouldnt race.
     
  5. sixty four 445

    sixty four 445 Well-Known Member

    nice kill, although i think if he woulda launched it like he meant it, he probably woulda been closer to 2.5 cars ahead at first, possibly more. but with the added weight and gearing, they are slow in the top end and FWD and RWD will catch them in the end. all awd is good for is getting off the line and praying to god that they dont catch you before the race is over.

    as far as breaking axles and trannys...admitedly, they are kinda weak, but then again, consider the circumstances. you can launch an AWD car at 5k and dump the clutch with minimal tire spin. try that with a FWD or RWD. youll smoke em off. the added stress that an AWD system puts on the trans and axles is phenomenol. think of instantly hooking up 400 ponies at the drop of a clutch. thats some serious abuse....abuse mitsu never intended for the avg driver. it also reaks havoc on the x-fer case...something else RWD and FWD dont have to bother with. an AWD system is pretty complex, and does tend to break down more. however, there arent many options left, beefy internals and transmissions arent readily available...so you tend to just break and rebuld. it aint like we have it for the domestics...where you can go out and choose from a broad range of trannies and gearing combos. you tend to get what you can find.

    not trying to defend, but merely to inform. those little cars are faster than you think. for 700 bux you can be nailing 12's all day long with a full interior..and thats moving a 3000lb car. and they do have prepped jobs that run deep into the 6 range...

    but regardless, your packing alot of heat there, and it woulda been worse if youd have had your engine broke in! :bglasses:
     
  6. EasyCompany7

    EasyCompany7 Semper Fi

    Easy on the old Geezer talk, I would not consider myself old by any means lol still hafta make it through highschool. Past that i hear yah. I just bought a 72 Buick GS with a 350 4spd and rochester 4bbl fed by ram air. I cant wait to have some ricer pull up next to me thinking that weight and bodykits are all that madders. Nice kill though its good to hear that other people would love to put hollywood cars in their place!
     
  7. faster

    faster Well-Known Member

    talon

    I had my stage 1 mototr in my park avenue (land yacht) for a while and with the 200-R and 4.10 posi she went mid to high 13's with a 2.00 60' time on the whitewall michelins. I'm at the strip one saturday just messin around and on my 8th pass I get lined up next to this talon that has been running very low 13's all day. I have to cut a good light to make it a race and cut a .528 on a .500 tree but launch just a little too hard and start to spin and only go 2.20 60'. I guess he wasn't watching all the cars that day and figured I was an easy mark. He oozes out of the hole with a .800 reaction time and then realizes I'm moving and gets on it. I'm in the right lane and I open my window a crack to listen for the nos which he hits almost immediately. The talon burbled and bogged just a tick for some reason before screaming all the while I'm still putting distance between us. I run my worst of the day at 13.85 to his 13.86 as he went by me after the traps. He went back to the pits, loaded up and went home. Never underestimate the competition.
    Mikey
     

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