Just read the business section of the newspaper and found that Buick and Lexus tied for #1 in dependability. The list gets rounded out with Cadillac, Mercury and Honda at 3,4, and 5. It was a measure of cars that were from 2004 model year. I do have to say that we have had good luck with our Buick Rendezvous. I hope the trend continues...........................:beer Jim Lerum:TU:
Very happy with the result , especially in the midsize car categorie :TU: http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=134984
How did lexus make that list?? You know, that's fortunate for lexus owners,because after the sticker price there's little left for repairs and between the price of gas and the price of latte's I imagine even lexus owners are feeling the sting! Long Live Buick. chris.
Those 2003-2004 models are still on the road ... and it's more complicate to follow the dependability of a brand new model :idea2:
Good point, Diego. For years Ford was touting the high quality and reliability of 3 of its models as being among the best: The Crown Victoria, the Grand Marquis, and the Lincoln Town Car. The irony is these were the only three cars they left alone all through the 80's and 90's and didn't try to "reengineer" or reinvent the wheel. That platform remained basically unchanged and carryover since first released on the 79 Ford and Mercury and the 1980 Lincoln. Also, one of Ford's plants received some sort of award as the highest quality car assembly plant: Wixom which they had just closed for good. Nice. :laugh:
See Dave's response.:beer The list doesn't help the average consumer who knows nothing about cars but goes to his or her local Buick dealership to find the car that's so dependable. The dealer can steer the buyer to something else, but what are the chances of that happening? Perhaps if the dealer sells Lexuses too . . . :bla:
Really supports the comments made back four months or so, that the quality gap was largely percieved and not real. Even when it's documented the U.S. based big three do something good.......in some peoples eyes...........it's still bad.
Brian, you slay me! The irony is that the US companies can't ever get it right - even when they get kudos, they can't back it up. You need to stop making excuses for Detroit. They're very capable, but they're entrenched in a complicated world where they can't figure out what they want or need to do. At least Saturn has . . uh, taken the bull by the horns and advertises "Think American" and has product to show for it. When an American car makes this list and the other useless ones, and when they start making #1 on the comparisons in the buff books, and when Consumer Report gives it a #1 rating against all those other cars, I think the Big 3 will have the perception of making something good in the public's eyes. Right now, there are so many lists that mean nothing other than the words "JD Power"; when an American car doesn't beat a Bimmer, the people claim there's bias due to advertising; and enthusiasts scoff that CR tests toasters or wheels.
:laugh: No, it's pretty evident in one sentence you say Detroit "can't" and in another you say they "have". By the way the Saturn ads say "Rethink American" not "Think American" I believe they are targeting the folks who have a negative perception.
You're misunderstanding me. I had said, "The irony is that the US companies can't ever get it right," and by that, I meant even when they do well, it's never well enough for some people. I was agreeing with you! But there is some irony in that when they get it, it's just not quite enough - those cars in the list aren't made anymore! You're right. I don't proofread, so a slap on my wrist from a piece of trim that fell off a '73 Torino. Indeed they are, and for the most part they have the product to back it up.
