I've got issues...

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by CraigFaller, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    If the idle mixture screws have no effect, you are not on the idle system of the carburetor. The primary throttle blades are too far open. Turn the distributor and advance the timing and/or connect your vacuum advance to manifold vacuum. Back out the idle speed screw until the idle comes down as much as possible without stalling. Check the idle mixture screws then, they should be responsive.
     
  2. CraigFaller

    CraigFaller Well-Known Member

    OK I'll go try that.

    Took a quick video this morning

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hYeV_epgrw

    I also noticed that the primary throttle blades each have a small bypass hole drilled in them, could that be causing problems? The primary throttle blades look like they are pretty well closed
     
  3. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Someone else has modified your carburetor. Drilling holes in the throttle blades is the wrong way to do things. Who knows what else was done. If it were my carburetor, I bring it to someone who knows what they are doing, and have them look it over.
     
  4. CraigFaller

    CraigFaller Well-Known Member

    Hooked up manifold vacuum to the advance, backed the idle off to the point the screw is not touching the lever and turned the mixtures screws all the way in and nothing changed.

    When I cracked open the secondary air flaps a tiny bit, it died right away.
     
  5. CraigFaller

    CraigFaller Well-Known Member

    I have access to some extra qjet parts, I can put on some throttle blades without air bleeds at least.
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Yes, I'd start there. People drill holes in the throttle blades to allow more air for the carburetor to idle with a big cam, but that is the wrong way to do things. Like I said, who knows what was done to this carburetor. I'd start with a good rebuild and while you are at it, see what the jetting is like. If the idle mixture needles have no effect, it isn't running on the idle system.
     
  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  9. CraigFaller

    CraigFaller Well-Known Member

    I may have located the problem or part of it at least, seems as if one of the secondary or both of the throttle plates aren't 100% closed off, moved the linkage on the drivers side when it was idling and everything smoothed out. Looks like the shaft might be binding or a blade isn't 100% set. I'll report back
     
  10. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I would suggest going with a Buick 350 carb, the idle passages etc are different in the different carbs....
     
  11. CraigFaller

    CraigFaller Well-Known Member

    Got it straightened out, there was some binding in my base plate on the carb, not sure if it is the throttle blades or if it's the secondary shaft itself, but I swapped base plates with a different carb and it's 100% better. I do have a stumble when I get on the throttle fast, nothing major but it's time for some tweaking. Thanks to everyone for their help!
     
  12. R4E5G5L

    R4E5G5L Not a Cutlass

    Happy to hear you fixed it but--

    I thought opening the secondaries helped, now you think the problem is that they aren't closing.

    I have similar issues (but Holley) , trying to learn, not trying to be a pita.

    Thanks
     
  13. CraigFaller

    CraigFaller Well-Known Member

    Well opening the secondary air flaps (the top flaps on the carb) helped by allowing some air in, the lower flaps (throttle blades) weren't closing up for some reason and allowing fuel to get into the intake. A different base plate on the carb solved the problem... the only thing I'm unsure of is why it was letting fuel by. I'm by no means any sort of expert on this stuff

    And this morning I went to start the car to go for a drive and the fuel pump had fuel literally running out of it, not leaking from either the inlet or the outlet - but it's leaking from the body of the fuel pump. Thankfully I have a new one in the garage for just this type of situation
     
  14. R4E5G5L

    R4E5G5L Not a Cutlass

    Cool, thanks for the explanation.
     

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