Issues lining up

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by larrymac40, Dec 13, 2022.

  1. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

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  2. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    That 100% is not a Mopar designed cam......alot of them are only 1 bolt
     
  3. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Nope, it's just that he was thinking he was looking at a part number, when it's simply a grind number used by Crane on several different makes. The giveaway problem-wise is that top gear. Looks nothing like what it should.

    Devon
     
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  4. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    The mystery deepens. The gear that's being tried looks nothing like we'd expect. BUT, it's stamped S398T, which everywhere else on the web shows the gear we're used to seeing from Cloyes. Here's what a search for S398T is supposed to look like:

    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/clo-s398t

    Which is exactly what we'd expect.

    I'm now wondering if the wrong parts at Cloyes may have been getting stamped with the right (Buick 455) part number! That would explain a lot.

    Devon
     
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  5. larrymac40

    larrymac40 Buickmuscles

    Thanks for information!! I’m just wondering why when I order this timing set kit they all came with this sprocket ? Not the one the seller is advertising
     
  6. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    See my comment above, I'm afraid there may have been wrong parts coming out of Cloyes.

    Either (1) the gear is meant for another engine and not Buick 400-430-455, (2) or they changed the design to look like your new one, but got the holes wrong. I'm thinking (2), because everything else fits ok.

    Short term solution may be to purchase just the top gear from Summit, linked above, and cross your fingers!

    Devon
     
  7. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

  8. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

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  9. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Yeah, but then you have the whole slotting the fuel pump holes thing. Personally never had to, always electric here.

    Devon
     
  10. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Guess you pick you fight. Fiddle with fuel pump or keep ordering the same part wondering why it doesn't fit
     
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  11. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

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  12. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Cloye's is 9/10th of a mile from my house.
    Want me to go beat 'em up?
     
  13. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Do it! My engineering brain is aching. Doesn't matter if they're manufacturing there or just distributing from there. Something's up.

    Devon
     
  14. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Who are you ordering from? (link)
     
  15. FJM568

    FJM568 Well-Known Member

    This^^^

    Haven't seen if this has been attempted. Cam bolt holes aren't drilled 180* apart...one is drilled offset so that it will only bolt on one way, like flywheel or flexplate.

    Spin the cam 180

    Edit...Nevermind, don't know how I missed the post that you tried this.
     
  16. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Might have the even fire V6 gear
     
  17. FLGS400

    FLGS400 Gold Level Contributor

    I used a Melling 3-498SA timing chain set when I did the one in my 400 9-months ago. No such problems with it.
     
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  18. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    Did you try turning it off and back on again?
     
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