Install a new Fan Shroud - How to, what needs to be removed/not removed?

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Utah455, Nov 20, 2023.

  1. Utah455

    Utah455 Platinum Level Contributor

    Stupid questions here, just want to make sure I don't miss anything or mess anything up.

    I want to install a new fan shroud and I'm pretty sure the fan and/or clutch need to come out for the shroud to be removed. Is that correct?

    If so, what is the proper way to take the fan and/or clutch out. I know the fan unbolts from the clutch.

    My problem or question is, removing the actual fan clutch assembly from the water pump. I go to unbolt the fan clutch and the entire threaded studs turn...Meaning which will come out from the pulley. How do I just get the bolts to turn and not the threaded studs into the water pump? I didn't want to remove or loosen the Alt or AC belts.

    Thanks,
    Nick
     
  2. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Yes, the fan and clutch assembly need to be removed first.
    If the studs come out of the pump flange, oh well, remove the nut/s from the stud after its out, clamp the stud on the smooth shoulder and wind the nut off.
     
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  3. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    You can take one nut off at a time with the stud attached, then reinstall the stud. My water pump studs have thread locker on them just double nut and tighten them in.
     
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  4. tdacton

    tdacton Gold Level Contributor

    Right or wrong, I'm not sure....
    I always release the belt tension of all the accessories. i.e. PS, Alt and A/C belts
    I prefer to not have all the tension on the center pulley and shaft without the fan mounted.
    I use one wrench and one ratchet. The wrench can be used on one nut and the fan shaft, to stop rotation so you can ratchet loose other nuts. Leave one nut just loose and put wrench on it to get first nut with ratchet.
    Troy
     
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  5. Utah455

    Utah455 Platinum Level Contributor

    I'm guess the fan, clutch and shroud will all pull out at once? I don't think the fan & clutch would come out without the shroud. And good idea, find a rag and lightly clamp the studs in my vise and loosen the nut.

    Oh yeah, didn't think of that. One at a time and return threaded stud back after each one

    Definitely didn't think of the belt tension (AC & Alt pulling one way and PS the other) on the pulley when there is nothing really holding it down. I just didn't feel like loosening the belts. Finally got'em tight to where they don't squeal :) I'll have to think about this one.


    I might try just loosening the actual fan (leave the clutch) and see if the fan finagles it's way out and then the shroud. Who knows, the upper radiator hose may be in the way of all that. Definitely didn't want to crack the coolant system open.

    But I guess if that's what I need to do to get me from Concourse Bronze to Silver at Bowling Green next year. It is what it is. LOL
     
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  6. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    No not all at once, the fan first, then the shroud,
     
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  7. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Your over thinking this, remove the fan/clutch assy from water pump, IIRC you CANNOT just remove the fan from the clutch while installed on water pump.
    Just move the upper rad hose out of the way, swing it to your right, theres enough movement.
     
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  8. Utah455

    Utah455 Platinum Level Contributor

    LOL, your definitely right...Downside to being an Engineer. Always overthinking before actually doing the task.
    At work, I don't care what I'm working on, if it breaks, it breaks, it'll be there tomorrow. Anything at home, 2 weeks of thinking. :)
     
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  9. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    Every time I've fooled with the fan/water pump, I've loosened the belts. It just makes life simpler.

    If you need to change the shroud, first take the fan clutch loose from the water pump as detailed above. The studs can be dealt with after it is apart a lot easier than trying to work with everything else in place.

    Once, the clutch is loose, you can unbolt the existing shroud (if you have one). You can take it off the bottom notches in the radiator support if you need more room. Tilt the top of the shroud toward the intake or if you took it out of the bottom notches, the whole shroud should move toward the engine, leaving plenty of room between the shroud and the radiator to get the fan and clutch out easily.

    No need to break the cooling system apart. Once the fan/clutch is out, the shroud should be relatively easy to work out around the top radiator hose.
     
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  10. Daves69

    Daves69 Too many cars too work on

    Before trying to remove the fan clutch.

    Protect the radiator with a piece of cardboard.
     
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  11. RoseBud68

    RoseBud68 Well-Known Member

    Thats ^^^ the way I did mine last weekend.
     
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  12. TommyV

    TommyV Well-Known Member

    Like the tips. I have a aluminum radiator to swap over.
     

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