Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by stage2man, Jun 19, 2003.
OK, thanks, must be eye sight, getting old you know, :laugh: Tom
scoop pics 2
Looks alot like how I did mine. I even have a red manifold too. :beer Tom
air cleaner foam seals
hi rob, talked to you a few weeks back about buying a couple of your foam seals for my scoop project. any news yet? still very interested, thanks again, bob
I sent you a PM. To anyone else following this thread,my one mistake was having VFN make the cut-out on the hood the same dimension as the stage 2 scoop. Now I have no way of using a scoop plug or cover if I get caught in the rain,it is a street car and I drive it to the track 90 miles each way.So now I have to fabricate a 2" piece under the hood at the front of the scoop for a Lip to have some kind of a base for a plug. I also had them install the scoop 12" from the rear of the hood on center based on what other members qouted thier measurments on.I would have been better off with it being mounted 10 1/2" from the rear as it does have a slant in the rear end and doesn't get to the 4"s till about a inch and a half up from the rear.As it sits now I have a good 3"s from the filter to the front of the scoop.Needless to say I have a little fabricating to do.It will all come together eventually but I could have saved myself some time and trouble if I had known about these problems before hand. I'm just stating all these things to try to save other members from these mistakes,I realize everybodys application could be different i"m just stating what I've learned so far.If anyone has any questions don't hesitate to ask I'm more then glad to offer my assistance,that's why we're all here anyway!:TU:
Sorry Bob, been on vacation. I will try to get some next week.
I will keep you posted.
In my findings the scoop itself won't show much performance gain w/o sealing it to the hood.
I made my airpan out of LEXAN.It looks much cleaner as I mounted the foam to the underside of the hood.This serves another purpose along with sealing,I can toss the hood on the roof of my car w/o damage.
I also used a STUBSTACK on the top of the carb to further smooth the airflow.
I will try to post some pics when I get a chance,I don't think I have any good ones on my 'puter.
I should market the "Stage 2 Hoodscoop" airpan I have,It even has 4 holes down each side to hold your spark plugs an is niecly cut out with a router as opposed to a jigsaw.
It was 1 MPH at the 1/8 th and 1.5 MPH at the 1/4 mile That I picked up.
That shows about 10-15 HPo No:
Here is what I have for a pic now.......Looks like there is nothing there,Look close.
Gary, those valve covers are the coolest looking i've seen yet..... Chris
Hi Gary, What distributor and ignition are you running if I may ask.:beer Tom
I chose those valve covers for the largest inside dimension to clear the rocker system I have.
Steve Reynolds(A Buick racer) also makes some nice ones.
The distributor is a Mallory Unilite and I use a HYFIRE 4 ignition box.
I painted the Mallory cap black,culdn't stand it being the only red item under the hood.
cool link on the subject....
WOW! What an article,my head is spinning,way to advanced for my simple brain.
All I really got out of it is,A good aftermarket scoop,big enough to grab air and flow it to a "sealed intake Will make more power!:Smarty:
Here is a couple more pics. There are 2 already posted. I will be at E-town if you want to get a up close look.
Thanks for posting those pic's.
I will be at E-town as usual and will be lookin for your car.
I only have this weekend to get my s#@t together and try to seal my carb to the hood,so far the only type of sealent I could find was some dense foam rubber from a reupholstery shop.
I'll be making up some kind of system tomorrow and Sunday,hopefully I won't get laughed at when I show up!
But I am Glad you'll be there to give me some pointers in the right direction!!
See Ya next week.Are you coming for both days? Sat. and Sun? If you are are you staying at the McCintosh Inn?
I will be there Fri night, Sat, & Sun. I will be staying at the Macintosh.
see you there.
I saw an interesting ram air setup on a 71 ram air Firebird this weekend. Used a very large pan that sat on top of the engine and sealed to the hood. What was interesting was how it was notched to allow 1/4 of the fan shroud to be inside the sealed area. Fan forced ram air in addition to the 2 front scoops??
Something to think about.....
LOST 3 TENTHS WHEN I SEAL MY STAGE 2 SCOOP TO THE HOOD!
The car went from 11.48 to 11.16 just by removing the air pan that sealed the carb to the hood.