http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...&rd=1&item=2496757972&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT No comment necessary. :jd:
Big Boy money here folks ...... Sweet ride ! My buddy had one back in the day .. My 68 442 played with it many a time ..... :laugh: :3gears:
I have watched Judge's for quite a while and I have a funny feeling there is some 'inside action' going on with this one. I have seen as-restored RA IV's go for less.....
I used to laugh at people who tried to sell their car for "what they had in it." A car was almost never worth as much as it cost to restore it. But maybe in today's inflated musclecar market that no longer holds true.
so Kryta is selling the judge he JUST restored. interesting. I would agree though that it is very unusual to get out of it what you paid to have it restored.
This is James' brother John's car. (They're identical twins). For years I thought it was the beer, there were always two of them. Then I quit for 3 years......there were still 2 of them. Saw all four of them at the Homecoming in Lansing. This is a no excuses car and will hold its own with the best of them. My guess is it's time to move on to something new. Wonder what? James is doing a couple of 442 W30's (in addition to the Viking blue car).
Nice car... It is a nice car but it is not perfect. I'm surprised that he wouldn't take $124k for it but I'm sure he has a fortune invested in it, paying a restoration shop to much of the work really adds up quick. I saw this car in person this Summer at the GTOAA Nats and was very disappointed in the number of incorrect things about the car, especially after the owner bragged so much about it being so perfect. I normally hesitate to say anything negative about cars that are not my own, and I will probably regret saying it now, but the owner of this car was so especially rude to me in the past that I just can't resist pointing out just a few of the things I noticed that were "wrong" on this car: 1). Tires were white lines that had been painted to be whitewalls (G70 Blackwalls are not available so they just did a poor job of painting the whiteline and stuck them on the car). 2). The car had a set mis-matched wheels (as i remember only 2 of the 4 had the correct "JA" code) 3). Incorrect P/S hose (simply an Pep Boys or Autozone replacement that had some funky yellow lettering on it) 4).incorrect water pump (replacement) 5)incorrect spark plugs (had new style AC Delco logo) 6)The hood latch was painted instead of being properly plated 7) the truck latch and the trunk lid attaching bolts were left unpainted (both of these items were installed on the car at the factory before it was painted and therefore should be body colored) 8)several incorrect clamps 9) front parking light lens were dated 1970 instead of correct 1969 10) The car is absolutely covered with tags that the owner made-up. I mean he made little paper tags for many components on the car but didn't bother to look up the correct part numbers, instead he just made up numbers like 9790081 and printed out the tags, and stuck on the car. I bought a set from him for $45 on ebay (before I ever saw his car) and the ad said they were correct for a 1969 GTO, and after I got them realized they were almost all bogus numbers. I asked him about them later and his reply was basically that no one will really know the right numbers at a show anyway. 11)and several more items that I won't bore you with... I took pictures of most of these items because I was so shocked and disappointed when I saw them. If you don't believe me on these items I have pictures of most of them. Don't get me wrong, the car is absolutely beautiful, but not necessarily 100%correct. Most people are so impressed with the detail that they just assume that the details are correct, when in fact many are not. I'm really shocked that it scored 695 out of 700 at the GTOAA Nats considering all of the little incorrect items. If I'm not mistaken the car still did not win Best of Show at the GTOAA Nats. Once again I apologize for being such a jerk for pointing out the negative about someone elses car, but for this guy I was willing to make a special exception.
Honestly, I think it's good that you pointed those things out. I remember oh-to-fondly going to Mopar Nats and seeing all of the "Concourse" cars marked, stenciled, paint daubed up like a circus wagon - - only to have the owners not know "why" they did what they did ????? uzzled: Anyway - nice analysis on the car. :beer
maybe they are trying to compete with the 69 W31 that was at Minneapolis----the paper weight of that car from all the tags probably exceeded the metal weight of the car. Nice car but this tag bs is getting a little out of hand! Patton
That's a really nice car, despite the fact there are a few very, very minor flaws. But what good is a car that is too perfect to do a wheel alignment on, let alone drive it? For 1/8 million I would rather buy a few (5 or 6?) really nice cars I could proudly drive to the car shows. To each is own I guess. o No:
Has anyone looked at the 67 GT500 Shelby for $190,000 reserve not met? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2497065671&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1
I always get a kick out of the overrestored cars that have all the crayon marks, etc. all over them. Those things weren't normally part of the process control and were strictly "aids" that one employee put on to assist another or maybe the foreman was trying something to reduce repairs on the assembly line. There is no right or wrong on those type things. Day shift could do it differently from night shift, etc. The only one at Oldsmobile that was consistent was the 4 digit line number from 0001 to 2000 (then started over again). That was put on by the body scheduler manually in the body float area when they loaded the bodies onto the main delivery conveyor. It was easier to go by that than the 6 digit VIN. We built 1600 cars per day on the Oldsmobile main assy line (6 cyl F85 all the way to 98 Custom Cruisers) at a line rate of 96 per hour at peak (93 buyoff). Toronadoes were built on a seaparate line at a much slower rate. The lettered codes on the colored tags, though, were part of the parts id process. The colors varied from time to time (you never use color as an assembly aid since a surprising number of people are color blind). The tags were called out on the parts drawings and usually included a color, but the shade could vary all over the place. They were very critical for correct usage as for example, we had over 120 different part number front coil springs in 1973. The positioning of the tags were always specified also so they could be seen on the completed car at final buyoff.
