Help with 71 Stg1 verification

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  1. GS400s

    GS400s Dan

    Wow, I didn't know that they date coded the fenders. I assume this means remove them from the car and they are stamped somewhere?
    I am four hours from the car. I only have what the owner has sent me. I am very doubtful that it has SCO bucket seats. He has not found the build sheet, I don't know where else SCO would be shown, but the trim tag said it should be split bench.
     
  2. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    You don’t have to remove them from the car, are passenger side, fender, part number and day code, or behind the overflow tank under the hood. The driver side will be located by the water, washer bottle bolted to the fender. See examples. D91018EA-A765-45E5-82C0-99B7214EEB78.jpeg 7C2628CC-6B16-40B2-ACDD-67774646F695.jpeg A4972995-045B-4C43-9756-9AEEA87B55BA.jpeg
     
  3. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 STAGE 1 & 2

    It would say on the trim tag SCO.
     
  4. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    All ready been determined, " 155 is Notchback (armrest) bench seat" Not a factory bucket seat car.


     
  5. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    Carb pictured is a for a 350 date feb 18th 71


     
  6. Duane

    Duane Member

    Beyond the date codes on the fenders, you also need to verify they are 1971 fenders.

    That means the date codes have to be stamped a certain way and you need to see if the fenders have, or do not have, alignment holes between the fender skins and inner fender brace. You also need to verify that the fender skins are not “flat” on the top, but are curved correctly.
    Duane
     
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  7. Jim Jones

    Jim Jones Wretched Excess

    Fenders consisted of two stamped metal panels spot welded together. BOTH panels were date coded, and sometimes the dates matched, but were usually off by a week or two. Outer panel was stamped at bottom behind wheel arch.

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    Look for bumper spacers on the rear axle. These were specific to big block cars, and are clue that car may have been originally 455 equipped (but won't prove Stage 1 option sadly).

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  8. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    Did he send you any pictures of the engine under the hood?
     
  9. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    350 vs. 455 stuff to look for:
    • Throttle cable code if the sticker is still present (it was one of the most durable) or length
    • Correct date code 3.42 Posi Rear end code (yes, a 350 or 455 could've been ordered w/performance axle/posi but good S1 circumstantial evidence
    • Rear end bump stop limiting brakets (455/S1 only)
    • Accelerator pedal (no provision for TH350 kickdown
    • Original TH400 kickdown switch/wiring
    • Original 455 style battery cable block
    • Correct firewall plug for 350 kickdown cable
    • Correct air cleaner bracket
    • Correct fan shroud
    Surely there's more...
     
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  10. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    For future reference 434671H128538




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  11. N360LL

    N360LL milehi71Stage1

    Seller posted it on FB a couple of hours ago. Caveat emptor. Asking price seems in the ball park given the condition. If you can DIY a restoration or make it a driver then this is your opportunity.
     
  12. George D.

    George D. Platinum Level Contributor

    N360- I thought that was the car…. Think he’s asking 30k?
     
  13. GS400s

    GS400s Dan

    Well you guys beat me to the announcement It is the same car on facebook marketplace. I did not buy it. I thought it was a beautiful color combination, Really was really was only interested at this price if I knew it was a stage. I actually have over a dozen 50s to 70s cars and very little time to do my least favorite thing- body repairs.
    Anyway, I wanted to thank all of you for being so helpful in my quest. I appreciate the time and effort so many of you put into helping.
     
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  14. GS400s

    GS400s Dan

    I still have my 68 GS convertible 4 spd apart.
     

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  15. N360LL

    N360LL milehi71Stage1

    It is the same car. The pictures posted on FB that I didn't see here give me a better idea of what exactly it is. I think the price is within reason even if it isn't a Stage 1.
    I wrote previously what I suspect it is from the pictures. I am not going to change my opinion.
     
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