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Header Tips or Tricks

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by FrankOC, Nov 18, 2024.

  1. FrankOC

    FrankOC Active Member

    I'm installing a set of TA Performance 1-7/8's stage 1 long-tube headers in a 72 Skylark with a 455. Looking for any insight on the install. Are these installed from the bottom up or top down?

    Thanks
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Bottom, and the higher you can get the car, the better. A lift would be best. Loosening the motor mount bolts and jacking the engine up on one side can be helpful as well.
     
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  3. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    Put the gaskets in last.
    Get both headers hanging on the bolts then use a tin snip to cut a slot from the bottom of each bolt hole up to the bolt, then you can simply slip the gasket in.

    You can even cut the gasket into 2 or 4 sections lenght wise.

    Be sure to disconnect the battery before even jacking the car up off the floor!
     
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  4. FrankOC

    FrankOC Active Member

    great feedback, now I have a starting point. Much appreciated.
     
  5. 72STAGE1

    72STAGE1 STAGE 1 & 2

    Also, a second set of hands makes a big difference too!
     
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  6. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    The center bolt is going to be a pain. Make sure the middle bolt is in as far as possible and the header flange is slotted so you can just drop it on and not have to run it all the way down with a wrench. It is going to take a bit of time and you will get good at flipping the wrench to move it 30° at a time. If you have small hands, it is easier. If you have big hands, get a small-handed person to help.
     
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  7. BadBrad

    BadBrad Got 4-speed?

    You'll go through any number of heat cycles before gasketing is stabilized and bolts no longer loosen. Be diligent in checking the bolts; and some will loosen while others never seem to. Eventually you'll get to the point where once a year is all that's really necessary. The only bolt requiring gymnastics is that driver's side rear; you'll be under the car for it on a four speed car. Not sure for automatic, but certainly likely.
     
  8. BrianTrick

    BrianTrick Brian Trick

    Certain bolts need to be started as the header is fed towards the head. Do not tighten any bolts until all of them are in.
     
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  9. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I did it that way on my last install.
    I slotted the center lower bolt hole on the flange and was able to start the bolt quite a few threads into the head, then hung the header on the bolt and continued from there.
    Worked awesome :D
     
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  10. FrankOC

    FrankOC Active Member

    Greg, is that on the driver or passenger side? Thanks
     
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  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Both sides. There is a center bolt nestled between 2 tubes. It helps to slot that hole. Look at your headers, it will be painfully obvious.
     
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  12. got_tork

    got_tork Well-Known Member

    I would recommend 12pt head bolts if you don't have them already.I use them on my bell housing also.Make install alot easier.
    Chris
     
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  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I found this picture here on V8. It shows the slotted holes we are talking about.

    Header Slots2.jpg
     
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  14. john.schaefer77

    john.schaefer77 Well-Known Member

    I like to use an ignition wrench to put the bolts in and get them to the point of final tightening. I then switch to another thin one I have to finish.
     
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  15. WayneNJ

    WayneNJ Well-Known Member

    Not to hijack the thread but if doing a valve job and wanting to install headers at the same time, what would be best procedure? This is on a 350.
     
  16. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Valve job first
     
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  17. FrankOC

    FrankOC Active Member

    Got it, thanks, that helps a lot.
     
  18. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    I slotted the rear bolt. As well as the center. Hung it on the rear. Swing it in place start front, snip the gasket and drop down, start the rest ofvthe bokts and have fun.......I used a 1/4 ratchet short socket wobble and extension and went through the wheel well on my center.......but my motor is moved back towards the firewall and can't say if something else is in the way for stock location motors
     
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  19. FrankOC

    FrankOC Active Member

    Does the steering shaft need to come out?
     
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  20. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No.
     
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