Harrison Radiator Applications & Identification for A-Bodies

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  1. Brett Slater

    Brett Slater Super Moderator Staff Member

    Good eye!
     
  2. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    Scanned the "Radiator and Fan Shroud" pages for 68 & 72. Not sure what you are looking for in the Heating and Cooling section, 0-12 in both manuals is the option code section.
     

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  3. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...thanks Mike, nice clear source docs. Option codes are what I need to verify Buick's use of "heavy duty" and "extra heavy duty" and settle semantic confusion we ran into earlier in this thread...
     
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  4. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...found a possible answer, SK was used in '69 for 4-barrel auto 350 engine no air, to include Californias and GS 350 hardtops. We can speculate that since was late build, Buick may have already been phasing-in SK. Was it a Flint car? We know things happened first there.

    When you get chance, I could use those '68 & '72 AM 0-12 pages.

    Everyone, I still need tank codes for SE rad (used '69-'71) and '72 only tank codes for CA, CF, CL, and CR rads. Don't confuse '72 radiator codes with earlier tank codes, some of which also start with "C." Radiator tags, if there, easiest way to find tank codes. Tank codes would be really helpful info for those wanting to recreate "correct" radiators from salvaged tanks.

    Duane, are you here? I need '69-'70 Assy Manual Section 11-4 radiator chart and Section 0-12 heating/cooling options page scans...
     
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  5. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Not sure what you're including or if you need but the orig. SB (no tag but that's what it calls for & is definitely orig. to the car - Correct date code anyway) from my '71 GS (350 no-A/C) used a CF and I don’t see any marking on the other side but it's a pretty narrow tank.

    Here's the latest '70 11-4.3 chart I have (4/24/70). I Also have the 2-3-70 rev. Also the 0-12-10 page. I have a few different versions of '70, '71, & '72 AM so lmk if you need anything else.
     

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  6. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...thank you, every "piece" will make puzzle clearer. I don't expect to get everything I need, but final doc will be as accurate and clear as possible for '68-'72.

    Still need Assy Manual info for:
    1968 Section 0-12 Heating and Cooling page
    1969 Section 0-12 Heating and Cooling page and Section 11-4 Radiator Assembly Chart page. Manual revision date needs to be late enough to cover Stage1
    1972 Section 0-12 Heating and Cooling page

    Some specific radiator info I'm looking for: tank codes for SE, SK, CA, CF, CL, and CR radiator codes, don't confuse radiator code with tank code. Last 4 are '72-only radiators, and CF was also used for '68-'71 tank codes.

    Also, can anyone verify that CL radiator had no trans cooler, or that CR had a 2-row core.

    Tank code info can prove assumption that Buick used an IA driver-side tank for every radiator. We already know all passenger-side tanks for '72 were different from '68-'71...
     
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  7. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Here's all that's in either of my '72 AM's.
     

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  8. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...don't recognize that pageo_O, arranged by UPC rather than S/C. Wonder why I3 cancelled. Can you check other option pages for UPC I40, UPC C60, and S/C IG to see if there is any cooling info. From '72 Wholesale Order Form, appears I3 was first cooling upgrade (CE radiator, except 350 A/C which got a CA), and IG was second (CF radiator)...
     
  9. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    The 72 I have looks just like the one Dano posted. Here is the '68.
     

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  10. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    The '72 0-12 section is completely different than '70-1. I'll look @ the other codes you mentioned.
     
  11. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...Thanks for '68 page.

    Cooling option UPC V03 (S/C I3) cancelled 10/18/71 is a mystery. Radiator chart shows 350/455, manual/auto, A/C plus HD cooling gets a CF radiator part# "3025232 (V03)". Cooling option page shows UPC V03 = S/C I3. Wholesale Order form shows S/C I3 is HD cooling, no S/C I7, and S/C IG = I3 + I6. I3 can't be both upgrades, so we're back to wording inconsistency like we saw for '70. From radiator chart, there's no HD radiator upgrade option without A/C. That doesn't seem right either. Also, there's a reference on radiator chart page at lower right that is a box with "2" in it and text "HEAVY DUTY COOLING (V03)." I can't find that boxed 2 anywhere on page. Possibly it was at bottom of page and not scanned, or on following page.

    Does anyone have a later '72 Assembly Manual than 11/3/71...
     
  12. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    My 72 manual is dated 11/26/71. But not all pages are updated, my page 16 is dated the same as the one posted,10/18/71 but page 17 is dated 11/12/71.
     
  13. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...thanks for looking. Since what I'm looking for would most likely be on radiator chart page revision record, I'd be better off asking; Does anyone has a '72 AM with more than 5 dates on revision record? Alternatively, maybe there's something in option pages for UPC codes I40 or C60, or S/C code IG that would explain cancelling I3...
     
  14. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...calling on everyone following this thread. We're almost there.

    I need someone with a '72 AM to look thru Availability Table section for UPC codes I40 and C60, and Sales Code IG, and scan results. Descriptions in these options will help clear up what Buick was doing with radiator upgrades in '72, especially with cancelling I3 in Oct.

    For anyone with radiators, tags, photos, or cars with original code radiators SE, SK (rare), and '72 radiator codes CA, CF, CL, and CR, I need tank codes for these to prove assumption that every Buick radiator had an IA tank, and to help members with recreating original radiators from salvaged tanks.

    SE was used '69-'71 on 400/455 auto no air no HD cooling cars.
    SK '69 only, on 350 auto no air no HD cooling cars.
    CA '72 350 with air and no HD cooling.
    CF '72 Stage1 with air, 350/455 with air and HD cooling.
    CL '72 350/455 manual no air and no HD cooling. Plus verify no trans cooler assumption.
    CR '72 350/455 auto no air and no HD cooling. Is this a 2-row core?
     
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  15. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Well, landed in the hospital for a couple days end of last week (all is fine) so I'm supposed to take 'er easy this week. Just today feeling sorta/kinda back to normal so I'll add it to the list of stuff I can do & take a look.
     
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  16. Duane

    Duane Member

    Dano,
    I just heard about this from Al. Hope you are doing better.
    Duane
     
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  17. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Thanks! Crazy few days but doing better.
     
  18. rtv72

    rtv72 Founders Club Member

    I have a 1970 455 4sp no/ac car came with a SF radiator. No HD cooling!
     
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  19. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...sorry to hear about hospitalization, but glad to hear you're back home. Try to follow discharge orders, we all have tendency to try to return to normal as soon as we're home...
     
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  20. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    Thanks! We would never over-do it:). My wife will try to keep me in check. Poor Al (@IDOXLR8) stopped by to pick up a part at the worst possible time - I was doubled over in pain & had just vomited. We had no idea what was wrong w/me or if it was contagious (ironically my wife had similar/milder symptoms a few days earlier). We figured it was something I ate, GI bug, & even considered it was poss. Covid related. I actually got a little better that night & more so the next day but then my temp started going up/feeling worse & knew it was something more serious & went to the ER - Gallbladder had finally given it up & is now gone.
     

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