FREE - Power brake booster & Master cylinder

MooseBear · Aug 5, 2010

speedtigger said: ↑

I see a lot of people taking sides and making judgement here. I am going to completely avoid saying who is right and who is wrong.

I will say that a little more clear communication might have avoided this situation completely. In all fairness to Pheonix350, he did say exactly what his expectations were. Realistic, correct or not, he said what he expected. DeeVeeEight made an assumption that the additional cost was not a problem. The problem started with the assumption. Again, not taking any sides, just pointing out what actually happened.

Where everyone is upset here is about perspective. Most of our perspectives are that $21 for all those parts is a no brainer. Just the trouble it takes to package them up, haul them down and ship them is 21 dollars worth to me. We won't even mention the recognition that DeeVeeEight deserves for thinking of others first.

While I said that communication could have avoided this upset, it is much easier to see in hind sight than when it is happening. When reading this thread, there is one crucial moment where this deal went wrong.
Here it is:
"PM me your name and address and I will ship them out UPS - you can send me the actual shipping costs.

Lee"

DeeVeeEight took this action without an agreement. That is the whole disagreement boiled down to this one thing.
I can only tell you in hindsight what I have learned from watching your disagreement. I have learned that I will make sure all parties are in complete agreement on the terms before I ship or ask to be shipped anything. If I decided to make an executive decision for someone else that is outside the parameters of the deal, I will expect to cover that cost myself.

One more time. I am not taking sides! Just saying what I see. I will also state for the record that if somebody sent me a working booster, master and prop valve delivered to my door for $21, I would hold them in the highest regard and let everyone know it!

After watching how this deal went down, I will keep in mind, that all kinds of people have all kinds or perspectives. We may not always see eye to eye. When we don't I will do my best to remember a plaque that my grandmother used to have on the wall when I was a child. It read:
"Be careful of the words you say, keep them soft and sweet. Because you never know from day to day which ones you'll have to eat...."
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:gp:

Annie Oakley · Aug 5, 2010

speedtigger said: ↑

I see a lot of people taking sides and making judgement here. I am going to completely avoid saying who is right and who is wrong.

I will say that a little more clear communication might have avoided this situation completely. In all fairness to Pheonix350, he did say exactly what his expectations were. Realistic, correct or not, he said what he expected. DeeVeeEight made an assumption that the additional cost was not a problem. The problem started with the assumption. Again, not taking any sides, just pointing out what actually happened.

Where everyone is upset here is about perspective. Most of our perspectives are that $21 for all those parts is a no brainer. Just the trouble it takes to package them up, haul them down and ship them is 21 dollars worth to me. We won't even mention the recognition that DeeVeeEight deserves for thinking of others first.

While I said that communication could have avoided this upset, it is much easier to see in hind sight than when it is happening. When reading this thread, there is one crucial moment where this deal went wrong.
Here it is:
"PM me your name and address and I will ship them out UPS - you can send me the actual shipping costs.

Lee"

DeeVeeEight took this action without an agreement. That is the whole disagreement boiled down to this one thing.
I can only tell you in hindsight what I have learned from watching your disagreement. I have learned that I will make sure all parties are in complete agreement on the terms before I ship or ask to be shipped anything. If I decided to make an executive decision for someone else that is outside the parameters of the deal, I will expect to cover that cost myself.

One more time. I am not taking sides! Just saying what I see. I will also state for the record that if somebody sent me a working booster, master and prop valve delivered to my door for $21, I would hold them in the highest regard and let everyone know it!
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:gp: I meant to remark about how it would have better on Phoenix's part to get the exact cost before agreeing to take the parts. And right when DeeVeeEight said to PM name and address, Phoenix should have Pm'd the info along with an explanation of how the cost was a huge factor and please send an exact cost before shipping - PLUS, Phoenix should have caught that DeeVeeEight said "UPS" not "USPS" and pointed out that he preferred the cheaper shipping method.

The deal fell apart during the terms, which were not fully understood by both parties.

Phoenix - sorry to be a bit harsh in my posting. It's easy for some of us to say "$9 is nothing! Just pay it." Most of us though, have been where you are (pinching pennies) and can see where the opportunity cost (ROI) is beneficial to us, even when the immediate outlay doesn't seem like it. And most of us can understand your surprise at the additional cost. But, we are saying that since you got a freebie (in parts), that the amount of extra cost should warrant more effort on your side to remedy the disagreement considering the value of what you got. And, whether he was going to throw them out or not - they have value.

Even if you are completely correct in this situation (I, and others will disagree, but for sake of argument), and DeeVeeEight maliciously "took" you for $9 extra shipping cost - but the $9 isn't worth the loss of potential advice, help, assistance, and 'face' you will lose in the long run. And, if money's that tight - sell one of the 3 parts to recoup the $9 and send it over - if nothing else, just to stop all of us from lecturing! :laugh:

Choose your battles wisely - sometimes it's ok to just voice your opposition and move on - and you'll be better off for it.

Sorry to have poked my head into this - it's making me feel like a crotchety old nag! :rant:

dl7265 · Aug 5, 2010

Well I have $21 worth of migraine now...

PS Annie, you may want to PM Donny1973, he has been looking for John Galt :laugh:

DL

rex362 · Aug 5, 2010

lets all sing Kumba Ja and leave this behind

Annie Oakley · Aug 5, 2010

rex362 said: ↑

lets all sing Kumba Ja and leave this behind
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I'll sing it - if you post a video of it on Facebook as your song of the day!! Because I said so!

rex362 · Aug 5, 2010

you cranky lady ....

btw we could use Jeff B and that cowboy John Wayne wanna-be fella
on this thread

CJay · Aug 5, 2010

bostongsx said: ↑

I would also like to see this resolved so send my your paypal info and I'll send you the $11.00 to send the parts back.
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X2 on that Herb.

Totally unbelievable. Ive spend more on lunch at Subway.

CJay · Aug 5, 2010

Seriously Jacob, send the parts back to DeeVeeEight and I will be more than happy to cover the cost. The only thing I ask is that DeeVeeEight posts a picture of the parts going into the garbage truck and for it to be posted here.

01j · Aug 5, 2010

I completely agree with Speedtigger's comments. It was miscommunication.

It seems that many transactions though message boards end with very hurt feelings. Although only two people are involved, everyone takes sides and in most cases the judgement for or against is one-sided. For example, I was once chastised for chiming in on somebody's trailer deal that went bust. In another case on another Buick board, I was slaughtered for saying that I would sell a particular part on ebay in order to make it fair for everyone. In this case, two sides cannot agree on $9. Wow... I'm not even going to get into whose at fault in this case because I don't know, but I've sure developed the attitude that commerce on a message board, any message board, is an activity that should be avoided at all costs. It's too much trouble with too many crybabies involved (you get to pick who's the crybaby in this case, I can't tell). :ball:

01j · Aug 5, 2010

Wait, wait, wait, wait!!!!! I've got the perfect solution!!!! Pheonix350, please send DeeVeeEight $4.50! Then you can both say you won! And all of the dog-pilers (me too) can go back to a productive day and this sorry mess can go away!

Wow, I amaze myself sometimes!

Annie Oakley · Aug 5, 2010

rex362 said: ↑

you cranky lady ....

btw we could use Jeff B and that cowboy John Wayne wanna-be fella
on this thread
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Not sure where all those guys went...seem to have disappeared...Maybe they are looking for the $9 of loose change on the floor boards of my Regal.

More crankiness: "Hey You Kids!! Get Off My Lawn!!"

DeeVeeEight · Aug 5, 2010

Thank you all for a very good laugh!

The $21.00 and parts are nothing to me - let it go.

And I do agree Speedtigger, excellent posting!

:beer

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