I had that issue on my last change. Ended up using a Bosch filter as it was all that was available at Autozone other than a Fram. It was a bit pricey but probably very good quality. Next change I'll open it and take a picture. One thing about the Bosch; it is small capacity and looks a little silly on the front of a large engine - not that this matters. When I first saw it and brought it home I was skeptical regarding its likely fitment. But sure enough, it fits.
Hey I bought a TV at Wally World and it lasted only 4 years! :ball: I bought a computer a couple years later and it didn't work when I plugged it in. We love Walmart for many things but we are learning there are some items you just don't buy there and electronics is one of them. We have suspected its B-class items even if the supplier doesn't tell them it is. Walmart beats the supplier down on price so the supplier, having to still make money, cuts a corner somewhere in quality. At least that seems to be our experience.
Well, as far as the states go, if it's an AC Delco unit and it comes from Walmart, I STILL wouldn't trust the quality. I agree with JW, why skimp and save $3 on a Failmart filter when you could buy a real filter at NAPA or a parts store or a dealer? It makes no sense. It's not like you're buying 50 of them. If you change your oil 4 times per year, that's $12. I would be willing to bet we piss away $12 a year on much less important things than an oil filter. :Smarty:
Well i have seen places like Wally only at movies... we dont have such stores in Poland.I bought that filter at Official Delco dealer here in Europe.
I posted this on another site I frequent. Read the whole story here: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295635
Pretty scary, no doubt the extra cloggage didn't help but still.....It wasn't up to the task. No surprise. Fram = Sham
there are lots of comparisons of filters at bobistheoilguy.com. I remember the ones that did well were AC Delco, Purolator, Wix, Motorcraft I think, and of all surprises, Tech 1 from the place we all love to hate, Wallyworld. Fram, however, was not highly thought of.
Problem is everyone wants cheap and buys cheap so now I have to drive clear across town to get decent filters, the only thing stocked by the major chain stores here are Fram (because of course, they are cheap). Case at a time of WIX for me (only problem there is if you have an issue with a filter 2 years from now there is no warranty, store might not even be there any longer like the last time!)....
I bought oil and a filter for my truck a couple months ago. The guy at the counter pointed out that the frams were half off or free or something if I bought the big jug of oil, blah blah blah. I told him I wouldn't put a fram on any of my vehicles and he freaked out. I told them they were crap and worse than nothing at all. These guys at the shops don't know, just do what they're told.
I let those autoparts stores give me free stuff, I just go to another store and return it:grin::dollar:
I can honestly say I'm 48 and I have never had an oil filter fail where I needed to utilize a warranty. Now that's not to say they don't fail, I'm sure you grease monkeys out there that change oil 6 times a week have seen failures, but in general with the amount of oil changes the average person makes, it's not likely you'll need to worry about a warranty on an oil filter.
true enough but one time I looked in the filter like I always do before installing it and there was a piece of metal sticking out near the top ...couldn't pull it out, looked to be part of the perforated core that shifted somehow before it got stamp....long story short, store gone, it went in the trash, I'm out the $$. It happens. Not a big deal. Whats a grease monkey? Nowadays most auto mechanics are more techies than anything else with all the electrical/electronic stuff going on...
OK, I'll cut apart the Fram filter I've had on my daily driver for 5,000 miles, (when it gets there). I'll bet it doesn't look like the poster boy at the top of the thread. There is no way in reality that that filter got that black in 50 miles on a well-maintained engine, and I'll further stick my finger in the wound and say that I think any other filter in a similar circumstance would look pretty much the same. Parts aren't that much different. I'm not defending Fram, per se, but I'll just take a look-see at the next oil change. Those diesel fuel filters appear to come from a system contaminated with water. The paper soaks up the water, bloats, and restricts the flow, causing the collapse you see. Ken Mild, back in the day, I've changed as many as 6 oil filters before lunch. But then, I was a "tech" as they say, NIASE (now it's called ASE) certified.
fram is junk, no surprise. 20 years ago at allied auto in weymouth, ma i saw a display with a fram, wix and an ac delco cut open. the fram looked like notebook paper and the wix + ac looked nice and beefy. they have been that way for a long time.
