Flywheel resurface??

Discussion in 'U-shift em' started by racngrn, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Guys, I am having a Centerforce Dual Friction clutch installed in my 72 Stage 1. The current clutch is fine, no chatter or slipping, but the pedal feel is very heavy and I am after a stock feel. Given the current clutch performance being as good as it is, do I need to resurface the flywheel if it appear to be in good to great shape? Or, is resurfacing just the common practice? Thanks for your help.
     
  2. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    If it is not smooth, now is the time. But like brake drums it can only be turned so much before it is too thin to use. Treat it like it is a cross between an explosive and a buzz saw. So if it is smmoth leave it alone.
     
  3. moleary

    moleary GOD Bless America

    Hi Steve, what clutch was giving you heavy pedal pressure; ZOOM?
     
  4. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Mark, not sure. I'll need to see what came out of the car. REALLY heavy pressure. Likely a race set up because pedal was very high off the floor. I'll let you know. Steve
     
  5. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Mechanic could not tell brand. Car had some track time with another motor prior to me owning it. Would have been a great clutch for that purpose. Not so nice around town. Hope all is well. Steve
     
  6. satch

    satch Well-Known Member

    You should check it for heat spots and checks if the clutch was slipping. My local machine shop charges $45 if it is serviceable.
     
  7. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Dropped off to be turned ( or at least considered for turning). Hopefully, plenty there to get that accomplished. Appreciate the input. Steve
     
  8. moleary

    moleary GOD Bless America

    Hi Steve, all is good on the Island, thanks.
    I trust all is good on your end? I hear you about putting around town with a performance clutch and the loss of BUICK drivablity, but, when it is time to hook the 500+HP to the ground, an flog the dog crap out of it, the clutch makes all the difference...that Centerforce is supposed to have lighter pedal pressure and hi perfromance?
     
  9. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Mark, from what I could gleen from the Forum posts here, and what I have heard from others using that set up in other big block cars, it should be adequate. I don't race the car and very rarely flog it ( original motor and all), but there will likely be some trade off. I'll post with my findings as to difference and performance of teh Centerforce so others can evaluate.

    All that said, woke up to snow covered ground this am ( was in the 70's and 80's last week!), so testing will be suspended!! Talk to you later. Steve
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2012
  10. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Got the car back on Sunday. Big shout out to Brian Woodworth for great job on the install and paying close attention to details. Really a super guy and exceptional mechanic. Pedal feel is much improved, meaning considerably more user friendly in traffic. Good grip and launches well. So far, really happy but need to drive it some more miles. This leads me to ask - is there a break in protocol for clutches that I should watch out for, especially considering the flywheel was turned? Thanks, Steve
     
  11. Tom Rix

    Tom Rix Well-Known Member

  12. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    For sure. We use Centerforce also.

    DOES CENTERFORCE REQUIRE THE FLYWHEEL TO BE RESURFACED BEFORE INSTALLING A NEW CLUTCH?


    YES! FLYWHEELS ARE SUBJECT TO HEAT, SCORING AND WARPING DURING USE, THEREFORE THE FLYWHEEL SHOULD ALWAYS BE PROPERLY RESURFACED OR REPLACED TO ASSURE GOOD CLUTCH PERFORMANCE. RESURFACING MUST BE PERFORMED ON A QUALIFIED FLYWHEEL GRINDING MACHINE. CENTERFORCE DOES NOT RECOMMEND RESURFACING FLYWHEELS ON A LATHE OR A BLANCHARD GRINDER. ALSO, BE AWARE THAT USING A HAND-HELD ELECTRIC OR PNEUMATIC GRINDER/SANDER OR SCUFFING THE SURFACE WITH SANDPAPER DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A PROPERLY RESURFACED FLYWHEEL. REFER TO YOUR FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL FOR SPECIFICS ON YOUR VEHICLE REGARDING FLYWHEEL RESURFACING AND SPECIFICATIONS (FLAT, STEP, ETC.).SOME VEHICLES REQUIRE NEW REPLACEMENT FLYWHEELS INSTEAD OF RESURFACING. PLEASE CONSULT THE FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL OR CALL OUR TECH. LINE AT (520) 771-8422 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

    DO CENTERFORCE CLUTCHES REQUIRE A BREAK IN PERIOD?


    YES. IT IS RECOMMENDED TO PROPERLY SEAT IN THE NEW PRESSURE PLATE & DISC ASSEMBLY TO ASSURE GOOD CLUTCH PERFORMANCE. CENTERFORCE RECOMMENDS 450-500 MILES OF IN TOWN STOP AND GO TYPE OF EASY DRIVING BEFORE APPLYING FULL POWER. IF YOUR DRIVING CONSISTS OF MAINLY HIGHWAY TYPE USE, THE BREAK IN PERIOD SHOULD BE LONGER THAN THE 450-500 MILES. IF THE BREAK IN PERIOD IS NOT PROPERLY FOLLOWED, CLUTCH LIFE AND PERFORMANCE CAN BE SACRIFICED.
     
  13. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Jim, thanks for that excerpt. Helpful. I'll stck to the secondary roads for a while. Haven't had a chance to really drive the car due to wrk and such, and the weekend may not give me a chance either. Happy to have it out for spring and summer. Really like the pedal feel as compared to previous clutch. Also, it was not at all tough to get the flywheel resurfaced professionally, so I see no reason not to do it in any clutch replacement. Thanks again to all for the links and comments.
     
  14. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Finally a day to get the car out for a ride. Cool still, but great. Only thing I notice is a first gear launch shudder with the new clutch. Will this get better with break in normally? Can be pretty pronounced sometimes. Just don't want to do damage if this is abnormal. Thanks for the help. Steve
     
  15. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I am not a pro with manual trans but my advice is to get things checked out right away. I can not see things getting better with use.
     
  16. racngrn

    racngrn Well-Known Member

    Definitely. Off to my friendly mechanic to tear down and find the problem ( we hope) this weekend.
     

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