Cylinder head advice

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Sowle, Sep 27, 2022.

  1. Sowle

    Sowle Comic Book Dreamer

    Thanks for any knowledge in advance. I am currently going through a 76 455 short block. I may end up boring- I have a set of badger P528 pistons on the shelf. Cam is a Federal Mogul CS586. Car is a 78 regal cruiser sleeper stock exhaust manifolds Edelbrock intake- not b4b. Running true dual 2.5 full length and Holly sniper EFI quadrajet. Unmodified th350 with 342 gearset.
    My issue is I don't have any cylinder heads for this short block and was looking for advice on what would be the best casting number to take advantage of what I have.
    Thanks again.
     
  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    1786,..I have several sets,..I would deck the block 20 and the heads 15
     
  3. Sowle

    Sowle Comic Book Dreamer

    1231786 is 1970 correct? My homework shows a different head gasket. Thanks again.
     
  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    And head will go on any block
     
  5. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Only time you run into an issue I'd when trying to use a steel shim on an oval port block,...
     
  6. dan zepnick

    dan zepnick Well-Known Member

     
  7. dan zepnick

    dan zepnick Well-Known Member

    I should have a set of 75-76 castings. Where are you.located? Shipping would be expensive.
     
  8. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Avoid the 75-76 heads
     
  9. Stevem

    Stevem Well-Known Member

    Unless you can get your hands on a fully rebuilt set of heads ( new valves, guides the whole 9 yards!) ready to drop on, I would go for a set of aftermarket heads .
    The added performance gain will more then offset the minor added cost over the rebuild iron heads.
     
  10. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Aftermarket aren't available and won't be for an undetermined amount of time
     
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  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    You might be able to get Edelbrock heads sooner, Jegs and Sumitt say October and December respectively. I'd wait for the TA heads if you can. Maybe 2023, Maybe.
     
  12. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I would stay with iron heads also.
    You’ll be waiting quite awhile for aftermarket stuff
     
  13. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    I'd be more worried about the Badger pistons. What is the compression height?
     
  14. Sowle

    Sowle Comic Book Dreamer

    It does appear to add some height. Measuring the pin to top of piston original piston shows 1.43" the new 1.46". I cannot spend aluminum money on this project.
     
  15. Sowle

    Sowle Comic Book Dreamer

    The lower rings look to be in a different location also.
     

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  16. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    The Badger pistons are TALLER than the originals? I'd have never guessed that. I figured they'd be .020 shorter than the originals.

    Are you sure you're measuring the compression height correctly? How do they stack-up side-by side when the pin is slid half-way out of one piston, and halfway into the other piston?

    If the TOP ring on the new piston goes to the same height, or higher in the cylinder, you cannot have any ridge AT ALL. The top ring will catch the ridge, potentially breaking the ring and/or the piston. Even if the new pistons place the top ring in the same position, the cylinder wall and the rings wear together. New, unworn rings will hook the bottom of the ridge leading to potential damage.

    Bottom (oil control) ring location means very little.
     
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  17. Sowle

    Sowle Comic Book Dreamer

    I am still on the fence about boring this unit. I do not have any of the old pistons off the rod yet to compare. I've spotted a set of 1241860 casting.
     
  18. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  19. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    This is why the pontiac rods did so well at first. Strong, not alot of work to fit and took .025 of that. 040 up
     
  20. litakersd

    litakersd David Litakerlitramsman

    Just curious, i saw some replies here stating TA aluminum heads will not be available for awhile. I thought they had castings and were getting these out. I would like to replace my ported irons.

    thanks
     
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