Will a 67 GTO Clutch Pedal assembly fit into a '72 GS? Looks very similar to what I have seen on the boards here. Thanks, Scott
I think we may have covered this in some old posts. I went away thinking Buick was unique. Ask Reggie whose Board name is Sunbuick. He has converted several and was first in line for some of Dave Kleiner's repro 4 speed parts.
The simple answer is I do not know for the 1967 model year. If you can send me a pic I can tell you with a good degree of certainty the the pedal assy will work. Here is the info I have been able to gather: - 68 to 72 442, GTO and Buick appear to use the same clutch/brake pedal assy, most were broken and rewelded due to a poor GM design/fab process - for some reason many Chevelles are different, I will post a few pics of what I have come across, its just a different geometry arm on the clutch pedal - I will post a few pics, it still does work I used one in the last 4-speed conversion I did and it was a perfect fit on my 350 4-speed - aftermarket repro brake pedals seem to use the unusual Chevelle geometry which I used to avoid I will dig up a few pics and post these differences I am talking about. As for parts, Kleiner and Garrison are the heros here. Everything is now made with the exception of 350 Z-bars and 350 upper clutch rods. Pedal assy's are not too hard to find. I just recently did a 350cid 4-speed conversion and have pics of the 350 Z-bar if anyone would like to see one. It is quite different from a 455 Z-bar.
Chevelle style, the pic below is a repro assy and listed as 68-72 Chevelle. I have never used a repro and I would be wary of recommending one, strength and geometry is key here and repros and not known for these qualities. I have used a original GM style one like this and geometry + fit was perfect in my 1970 350 4-speed conv, I have not used one in a 455 setup. Unless you are stuck I would search for the GTO/442/Buick style - see next posts.
Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac A-Body all used the same Brake & Clutch Pedals. Group 0.830 # 1231313 67-72 clutch pedal 67-68 do not have the hole in clutch pedal for the NO-Start switch bracket. I think that Oldsmobile used the same 350 Z-bar
Pic below is a GTO pedal assy and listed as 1966/67 stlye - it is on Ebay now with 2 days left(item 4500939805). I cannot say if this is really a 66/67 but I can tell you it appears to be an exact duplicate of the common 68-72 series pedal. My opinion is that the seller has either mislabelled these(they actually are 68-72) or they are truly the same as 68-72. Anyway this is what you want to look for. Keep in mind that most will be broken and rewelded(this one is not). Also whatever used linkages you buy, you must count on welding up the worn holes on the pedal and Z-bar, they are always worn oval. Also in these pictures - the upper clutch rod is NOT for a buick, that is GTO! Firewall triange flange and boot are the same though.
Reg, This is the one I was thinking of buying. I appreciate all the info and pics. So I can buy every part from Dave K. except for the z-bar? If I indeed win this auction. I am sure that I will be needing your expertise in this matter in the future, if you do not mind. Scott M. Thanks for your help.
Hey Reg, What would be a fair price to pay for a pedal assy? Just to get an idea. I bid on the ones on EBay and they are already over $60. I was not so sure I should keep going or not. Thanks, Scott
Scott V, drop me a line anytime you need help on these. I went thru this stiff learning curve and I am still learning but have the generic package well in hand. Expect to pay $50-65 for pedals. Just Email me at home or on the list with any questions. I am also impressed with Scott Millers response, I have a 1968 Olds 442 and the Z-bar does look to be teh same as the Buick 350... I noticed this a long time ago but thought it could never be.
Scott, I found a '69 Cutlass S W-31 ram rod in the boneyard. Still had the z-bar in it. Was way different than the Buick part. Can't say that it wouldn't work, but looked radically different than the 350 z-bar. I was able to cross ref the SBB part (68-72) and found that it was used on Nova's, Chevelles and Skylarks with the 350. Long since discontinued. This was my starting point when I did my conversion. It did work fairly well, ran into the welding problem on the Pontiac clutch pedal. Jim
