Buick Aluminum 215

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Rik, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. Rik

    Rik New Member

    New here,

    If this in the wrong sub-forum please let me know.

    I am looking for a reverse rotation cam gear and distributor gear for the aluminum 215 cubic-inch V8 (circa 1962) so that I can help my step-father complete his Corvair project.

    Anybody here have experience with this subject or knows a guy that knows a guy?

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. Darron72Skylark

    Darron72Skylark Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a cool project, but I have no expertise on 215. If you haven't called TA Performance yet, that would be my first step.
     
  3. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Rik,
    Suggest you check with the cam grinders for a reverse rotation boat cam. The 215 was a popular boat engine, somebody undoubtedly made one for a twin engine drive.

    Jim
     
  4. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    Wouldn’t that spin oil pump backwards also? Seems counterproductive.
     
  5. Rik

    Rik New Member

    @Darron72Skylark - Thanks for the pointer. I'll give them a shot.
    @Jim Blackwood - I've called Isky, Comp, and Crane. All I talked to there gave me the same answer - Nope.
    @alec296 - I'd think so as well. This seemed to be popular decades ago and it's the step-father's project. He's making the calls. Since it's been used in Dune buggies and boats I'm going with the 'this has been done before' mantra.

    Thanks all.
     
  6. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    Didn't they somehow manage to switch the ring gear to the opposite side on those? I can't say from personal experience but that was how I was told it was done.

    Jim
     
  7. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    If you hit a dead end for the 215, the 300/340 sbb used the same cam so perhaps one of those engines might of been more recent boat engines you can find the reverse rotation stuff for?
     
  8. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Why reverse rotation?
     
  9. Rik

    Rik New Member

    @Jim Blackwood - I'm not sure. Step-father worked at Chevy dealers and ran his own shop since the early 60's when he got out of the Marines until 2010.
    @300sbb_overkill - Thanks. I found a guy that can produce the cam gear for me; half the battle
     
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  10. Rik

    Rik New Member

    @Mark Demko -Corvair engines rotate counterclockwise when viewed from the balancer; bell housing is toward the front of the car.
     
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  11. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Ahhhh, interesting!
    Didn't know that, thanks:D
     
  12. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    There was a guy a couple years ahead of me in high school who put a 215 in a VW and I bought a turbo from another who lived one town over. I don't think either one of them would have put up the money for a custom camshaft at the time if there was a cheaper way of doing it. As I recall, the second guy said you could unbolt the side covers from the diff and swap them side for side. Worth looking into anyway, might be possible to adapt the VW parts to the Corvair. The guy I knew who had a SBC Corvair though was a different matter. Engine in the back seat, custom subframe, and some fancy parts to make it work (it was a kit). I had a couple Corvairs and I don't think there is any way to do the swap like the VW guys did unless you could somehow flip the entire trans/diff assembly.

    The oil pump would definitely be a problem with reverse rotation though. External pump maybe.

    Jim
     
  13. Bruce R.

    Bruce R. Well-Known Member

    I had a 350 Buick once and a guy gave me an HEI distributor for it, it wouldn’t go in. I later learned that it was from an Olds engine. Maybe something there for you ? I know the 350 distributor fits the 215 , I also know the Olds turned opposite because looking at it I could see that the vacuum advance was facing the wrong direction.
     
  14. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Try contacting D&D they know more about 215 engines than anyone
     
  15. Jim Blackwood

    Jim Blackwood Well-Known Member

    If you could get ahold of Dan I'd say that should be true. Mark though? Well.... he likes to talk a lot but I'm not real sure. Could be he might help though. (Dan retired a few years back.)

    Jim
     
  16. Bruce R.

    Bruce R. Well-Known Member

    Years ago, Dan would tell you anything you wanted to know, I even have one of his catalogs that describes step by step how to build a stroked 215, including all the measurements and build specs. It seems that Mark, on the other hand, only wants to sell MGB kits, their website doesn’t even list individual parts for sale.
     
  17. mineseats9

    mineseats9 Gold Level Contributor

    They used to sell complete kits for the Corvair/215 conversion. Crossmember, starter, distributor, cam, etc. Everything fit with no chopping up the body. A friend had all the parts at one time. I will see if he still has them.
     
  18. roverman

    roverman Well-Known Member

    Back in the day, "Art Silva" pioneered the 215 into Corvairs. He used reverse rotation cams and removed the knurling on the crank hub,( rope seal). I would ask within the national Corvair Club. I drove one of these cars, nice balance of power, quite and smooth. Good Luck, roverman
     
  19. roverman

    roverman Well-Known Member

    While we're on the 215 V8 subject, Dan Jones has posted here, in the past. I suggest we ask him to post results of stock and reworked TA heads for 215-340" and Rover V8's. These are the best heads on earth for these engines. I'm using these on a 4L.+ RV8. The sbf raw forged crank will dictate how short of a stroke I can use. I prefer 2.8" for 4L, TR8/ GT I, SCCA rules. Initially, engine will likely use E85 fuel, M.T. 8 port crossram with Hilborn mech. injection. This build is to prove worthiness of AW 4 , automatic transmission,(3 spd OD.). I will produce direct fit bell housings for this trans, 4 and 5 speeds,( Muncie/T5), to fit the 215 and RV8's. Onward, roverman
     
  20. woody1640

    woody1640 Well-Known Member

    Since bell housings and manual transmissions have been brought up in this post, I would like to let you all know that a member of the 61-63 Skylark group already reproduces the OEM 3&4 speed bell housing. It comes as a 3 piece set, bell housing, shifter fork boot & a really nice casted (aluminum) flywheel cover.


    Keith
     

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