Here's my current situation. I've got the original '62 rear end in my Invicta, it's got 33 spline axles, and uses a RW509FR rear wheel bearing. I'm trying to put a '63 posi unit (which is 30 spline) into my housing by using the '63 axle shafts, which use a 514003 rear wheel bearing. I'm trying to find a rear wheel bearing that has the same ID as the 514003 bearing, and the same OD and width as the RW509FR bearing. The closest bearing I can come up with is an 88131R. It matches the ID and OD perfectly, however the outer race width is slightly less. Also the factory RW509FR bearing is a standard radial deep groove setup, whereas the 88131R is an angular contact configuration. Would the 88131R work for my intended purposes? Those bearings aren't cheap or very easy to come by (as for as I can tell poking around online) so I'd like a little guidance before I decide to just try it. Thanks!
WOW, You have me pinned to the wall on this one. Can not say i mess with complete Full size rears in that era much. I am sure there MIGHT be something out there that will work... I am just not able to throw you the info you need. As I always say YOU NEVER KNOW IT ALL... everyday is a learning experience. Just yesterday i learned that there is a 8.5 1967 Ford integral housing...??? We actually retro fit 8.8 Newer Ford gears into it and it all WORKED GREAT! EVERY DAY! Something NEW. If the car is a keeper after market axles might be a way to go - yes expensive but less evasive than cutting off the housing ends and attaching the other ones to it WHICH is a option. Gonna have to get out a Timkin phone book size BIBLE and start looking at the numbers of the inner and outer diameter and width combinations THAT is all you can do. Man I wish I could give you that info just have not had a customer that came in with the issue and or project of yours. Jim J D First time for everything- I do not have that answer.... Sad Day.
He is looking for a retro/special order to fit bearing not an original stock bearing.... So I do not think Olcar is gonna help here. The timkin books will have the outer diameters and ID and the width of the bearings ...IF there is something out there the BOOKS will have it. Jim
There's a local place I'm going to call and see if they can come up with something. Thanks anyway Jim! :beer
Looks like I'm SOL. I couldn't find anything, and neither could my local driveline shop. Looks like custom axle shafts are really the only option. So much for a simple posi swap!
Will do. This will probably end up being a winter project, don't have the funds for axles right now with summer classes starting up. Any recommendations between Moser, Currie, or Dutchman?
Well not really I deal with Moser.... BUT as with ALL these companies you have to have all the info for them correct. I always email all my specs so there are NO doubts as to how they will be built. Over the phone they always seem to goof them up. HUMAN error these days A LOT.
Gopher Bearing wasn't too helpful. At first I couldn't even get the guy to talk to me cause of "liability" issues with swapping axle shafts. Anyway, I was thinking of any possible way of making this work before I settle on waiting for custom axle shafts. Would it be possible to machine a spacer to take up the difference in bearing ID? The spacer would have an ID equal to the OD of the later axle shafts, and an OD equal to the ID of my current bearings. Thoughts? It would be roughly 3/32" thick.
I'd try the bearing you mentioned in the first post with a spacer to make up the width. or, like you thought of a sleeve sweated on to make up the diameter. either way you get to break new ground in '62 rear engineering :laugh: i have some 65 rears you can have one...the 63 posi should fit...not so sure about springs, suspension bits.
liability....lol. Right. That is an excuse for 'are you going to buy some thing or not'... Jim Go top local machine shops and see what kind of stock you can find. They always have a lot of metal laying around. Try a small; shop and tell them what you are doing bring the parts and tell them it would be ground breaking if it works ...lol. They always fall for that stuff. Jim Gotta keep knocking on the doors.... There will be a company where a owner is a car guy. That is the one you need.
I don't think the bearing I mentioned in my first post will work after all. I think it has a slight taper, and the actual bearing surface isn't wide enough, so a spacer wouldn't help. I'm thinking a sleeve might be the way to go at this point - I found this just browsing thru Grainger's catalog; http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/BUNTING-BEARINGS-Sleeve-Bearing-13U007?Pid=search. The sleeve has a 1.5in ID vs. the 1.53in OD of the axle shaft, and an OD equal to the ID of the correct bearing. Jim, what are your thoughts on using the sleeve I linked above, along with the '63 axle shafts and the correct wheel bearings?
a machine shop is essential for a sleeve-they may want to clean up the axle where the sleeve will be; That will change the ID of the sleeve. they will make one and "sweat" it on the axle. then they would machine the OD to the correct size after it is on the axle and check fit the bearing. . ...thats why the machine shop needs to do the job.
