Anyone know what this sticker could mean?

Discussion in 'The "Paper Trail"' started by staged67gspwr, Apr 15, 2007.

  1. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    Has anyone seen this sticker before and what it would mean?how about the 185 crayon mark?any help appreciated.


    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2007
  2. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    I am not sure about the sticker, but I am pretty sure the 185 crayon mark is the trim code. If I remember correctly when I pulled my car apart, mine said 186, which was black interior and black vinyl roof. It may have had a couple other trim meanings as well but those are the two main ones which come to mind.

    The interesting thing is that on my car, that crayon mark was on the front driver side (front facing side) of the firewall. I see yours is on the side. They probably just wrote it wherever.
     
  3. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    The trim code on mine is a 193 though??i thought it may be a trim code but then i thought that on mine its 193 so i ruled that out?
     
  4. Duane

    Duane Member

    The crayoned number 185 is the number assigned to that particular body as it went down the production lines. It helped the workers make sure the correct parts went on the right shell/car. The same number will often be found on the steel rims.
    Duane
     
  5. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"



    Interesting Duane,how do you know all these details?do you know what that sticker may be?


    Thanks
     
  6. Duane

    Duane Member

    George asks,
    "Interesting Duane,how do you know all these details?"

    Well if you are "lucky/insane" enough to take apart cars for 30+ years, cross reference the parts against the buildsheets, make sure everything is date coded correct so you can use them as a guide, and talk to various Fisher Body and GM factory workers, you could do it too. Either that or you could take my word for it.

    No idea of the sticker, could just be an inspection thing.
    Duane
     
  7. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"


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  8. PaulGS

    PaulGS Well-Known Member

    At the GM B-O-P plants, the bodys were spot welded together in sub assembly stations. The remote plants did not have a Fisher body plant to provide the body.

    At the Framingham plant in 1972, the crayons were used to number the subassemblies to be matched up later in the process.
     
  9. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    So basically, what does the 186 mean then (in my case) or the 185 in this case?

    I could swear it was the trim code. Like maybe it was crayoned on before the trim tag was applied.
     
  10. BlackGold

    BlackGold Well-Known Member

    Check it against the "Sequence Number" on your Fisher Broadcast Card or complete Build Sheet (if you're lucky enough to have either), or possibly the last few digits of your Fisher Body Number.
     
  11. Duane

    Duane Member

    Well Ken,
    Now you have 2 of us stating the factory used those numbers to correctly ID the pieces that went on specific cars. It sure doesn't appear to be the trim code number.

    Depending on the year/assembly plant there were other numbers also crayoned on the front face of the firewall near the hump. I have seen exterior color codes done this way, and GSX specific codes. Possibly trim codes were also used as well.
    Duane
     
  12. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Oh well,

    Thanks for the info. The last thing I want to do in my life is waste another moment over what a chalk mark on a firewall stands for. :laugh:

    For all I know it could be the amount of beers the assembler consumed the night before. :beer
     
  13. copperheadgs1

    copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

    I have a double digit mark "33" in that spot on my 71 so that would eliminate it being the trim code on my car.
     

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