Anyone ever soupe up a carbuerated Buick V6,or better known as the odd-fire design???

Just wanting to know opinions, advice, and information if anyone has done this. I have mine sitting in the garage since I yanked it out and replaced it with a Buick 350 and I don't know if I should just junk it, offer it up for somebody to come by and pick up(I will not ship it!), or if I might be able to use it for a future project? It did run when I pulled it but either it had a bad fuel filter or the carb. was going out on it? Anyhow, I figure if I do use it again in the future(I doubt it but ya never know), I would like it to be a little hotter than it was stock. It came out of my '76 century and it could barely pull it up a hill, but it had 103 thousand miles on it and had smog crap on it and was bone stock, so it did have some reasonable excuses as to why it wouldn't pull, besides having two less cylinders than it should, haha.(No offense guys, I am only joking, I know Buick 6 cylinder engines are nice engines and good candidates for performance) Anybody and everybody is welcome and encouraged to post on this thread that can tell me about past experiences w/ these kind of engines or what I can do, what's available in the aftermarket, etc.! Thanks :3gears:

 

I'd have to say that there is not too much performance potential in the odd fire v6. TA does sell a alum intake for it though.

If you were going to supe up a V6 the even fire would be better because you could use the late 80's turbo fuel injection setup on even a early even fire motor. There are more aftermarket goodies for the even fire V6 then there is for the Buick 350, and it would be easy to make 400 hp with the V6.

 

Any of the V6's are very popular in Jeep applications. We often convert odd fires to even fires or just do a good upgraded re-build. TA now has affordable forged stroker cranks for the even fire, they even let you use the stock rods. Has become very popular in the Jeeps because they will take all the low speed power they can get. Then for more horsepower our aluminum heads will liven it right up. However, on pump gas you won't get 400 Hp normally aspirated, but very high 200's to low 300's isn't bad. We are still dealing with a small bore size. Also, we recently did a roller cam for a 225 odd fire, same idea for the 231. The roller cam may be a little overkill for your needs, but just showing what still can be done with these.

 

waterboxguy raced a v-6 with a holley 4-barrel carb. engine is fresh with only one or two seasons of drag racing mileage on it, but he has pulled it out and dropped in a 455. he had some other goodies for it, but it is still naturally aspirated. i dont know what his ET's were, but i think that v-6 with the proper tune/setup, he could have hit 100 in the quarter and i say that with all confidence. he was having trouble selling the engine however, because lack of interest amongst racers.

i have seen lots of these engines at FWD/offroad swapmeets. i would definately build one of these for myself for a street car (potential for one hell of a sleeper!), but i wouldn't sink any money into one to try to sell, because you'll take a dive on it. just ask waterboxguy :laugh:

 

T/A just built a 225 odd fire for me , that I am bolting up a T5 5speed .Bigger valves . mild port job and cam . intake and 4 barrel. Turned out very nice.

 

103 thousand is just broke in. my 75 regal i had in hi school had 160 when the timing chain finally gave ,rattled for years.
my 65 runs fine but has that timing chain rattle .
darn plastic teeth
if i didnt have a couple of 350s ,i was going to bolt on 79 heads,intake,and turbo that i have laying around

 

If anyone can use them I have a set of kenn-bell valve covers for an oddfire you pay the shipping or pickup and there yours

 

Little bit embarrassed

I'm a little bit embarrassed to say that I have been bracket racing a 85 Regal with a 231 V/6 with a two barrel carb for the past three years. The 1/8 mile ET is 11.30's @57mph and 1/4 mile ET is 17.90's @74mph. The car is super slick with a cowl hood, Drag Lite wheels, and so on. I have tossed around installing a 4 barrel carb and camshaft but think it would still be a slug. The car is so slick I'm now afraid of scratching the paint with an engine change, etc. I will say though that I've won about $7000 the past three years while bracket racing it though. Its a real charge running a high 5 or low 6 second car (1/8 mile) when I'm running 57mph and their running 106-116 mph. With hindsight its not really to safe either but I've got used to it. If this car was a GS or something like that I wouldn't race it (going fast with class) but as its only a Regal (dime a dozen) I don't think I'm letting down the Buick community or spoiling the Buick image. If you have different views sound off. Bet I'm going to get some hate mail now?

 

67fitz i would be interested in the valve covers for my 65 .
monkeyy337 try a set of 3.23 or 3.42 gears if not running 3 series gears
tried on a 83 regal was impressed also 4 with the 4 barrel:TU:

 

3:73

I'm running 3:73 gears (switched from a 3:42) and it made no difference at all. It did help the reaction time alittle though because the 3:42's were in a GN 8 1/2 rearend and I went back to a 7 1/2 rearend (less drag/weight). This car is a real slug but will run the number.

 

i wasnt sure if you are running 3 series gears. i know when i went from
2.41 s to 3.23s it did perform better.
if you are interested have a 79 turbo/carb setup if you end up near chicago
you have it
i had this on my 83 with 3.23s and a 84 gn cam pulled good kept up with a
305 z28 for first gear

 

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455Lark, I'm very interested in what you are doing with the Buick odd fire engine. I would like to show you where I'm at with my project. Not sure how to make contact with you. I'm a new member and I'm restricted from doing certain things. Thank you for your support, Tommy.

 

Re: Anyone ever soupe up a carbuerated Buick V6,or better known as the odd-fire desig

Waterboxguy told me his Regal ran a 15.48 with the V-6. Regardless, I bought the motor and am looking for something lighter to put the V-6 in. The motor has a small Holley 4 barrel carb (390cfm), TA camshaft, headers, and a Performer aluminum intake. Yes your right, he took a dive on it.

 

Re: Anyone ever soupe up a carbuerated Buick V6,or better known as the odd-fire desig

This is a very interesting topic for me as well. I have one of these little odd-fire jewels in my boat, and am interested in souping it up a bit.

 

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Hey guy, do you still have that 79 turbo set up? Must ask though, does it require a computer/sensor set-up or is it a stand alone type system? I'm lost when it comes to the new type stuff. Thanks

 

Re: Anyone ever soupe up a carbuerated Buick V6,or better known as the odd-fire desig

the 79 is carb turbo no computer but has some kind of distributer adapter
which i have
its it could be stand alone as it would hook up like any other motor
you would need to make a downpipe or find one on the turbo board

 

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Have you ever ran this set-up or for that matter know if the stuff you have works? Can this set-up be used with a Holley Carburator or does it have to be used with a Q-jet? I have heard in the past from other people that there is not much performance gain using this system but I have always been interested in trying to use one. I know the performance between a Buick v-6 turbo system hot air car (84-85), and an intercooled car (86-87) is alot different with the 86-87 cars having better performance. I assume this system is similar to the carburator blow through systems that alot of people are using with good results but maybe not as up to date. Either way the concept sounds interesting to me.

 

Re: Anyone ever soupe up a carbuerated Buick V6,or better known as the odd-fire desig

Talk to "fastest430" (Don Eggers) on this board. He just recently sold an '85 carbed turbo Regal that ran in, at least, the low 14's. He could probably fill you in on what his combo was. IIRC, it had 3.42s, and a TH350.

 

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Sorry to bring up such an old post but im having trouble locating info on this fuel injection swap.
I have an 83'ish 231 even w/carp and i have found an 85' fuel injected with distributor. complete donor, but i havent had much luck finding what parts exactly that i need or if they will even interchange.
I hate to buy everything and find out it doesnt work.
anybody got any info or links?
Thanks, Brian

Also is this something i could call TA with. Im about 40 miles from them. I have heard alot about them but unfortunately they are closed untill the 7th for the holdiays.

 

Re: Anyone ever soupe up a carbuerated Buick V6,or better known as the odd-fire desig

do you have the turbo fuel injection?if its from a riv you will need some other pieces that are different than regals
you will need all the fuel injection pieces,manifold,timing cover and sensors
ignition box ,harmonic balancer and crank sensor
if you can get tank sender/hanger for fuel pump,wiring harness for engine compartment,get the interior wiring harness(and send that to me for my 65 /84 gn v6 swap)
you will want the mass air tube/aircleaner/mas air,down pipe,turbo and adapter,fuel lines back to tank if you can save them
trans and rear end if donor car is a turbo regal