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69 Buick Restoration 455

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017.

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  1. Nemesis19852

    Nemesis19852 Member

    Hey i bought 69 buick Rivi with a 455 in it im about to tear it down so i can get machined. I want to use this car as a daily/weekend car i want to be able to drive this car from CA to vegas with no problem what upgrades should i do and it needs a Carb.
     
    Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017
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  2. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Im not sure you need to do any upgrades other than a standard rebuild. Maybe a TA timing cover/ oil pump assembly. When the carb gets rebuilt, it will be rebuilt with ethanol resistant parts

    Just make sure the engine is going to be pump gas friendly
     
    CJay, Jan 7, 2017
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  3. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    Be careful about the machine shop, the numbers they use as a reference, the cam bearings etc. The safest play would be to use a machine shop experienced with these Buick engines. But, this may require shipping the engine somewhere.
     
    flynbuick, Jan 7, 2017
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  4. Nemesis19852

    Nemesis19852 Member

    Okay thanks guys what about a Carburetor i seen a holly one with a 850 cfm is that good also should upgrade the cam or just re-use everthing and leave is stock.
     
    Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017
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  5. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Unless you want a tanker trunk following you back and forth from Las Vegas, I would have the original Quadrajet rebuilt. The factory Q-Jet will gie you just as much performance as the Holley and get much better fuel mileage. Its the perfect carb for that engine based on what your goals are for it
     
    CJay, Jan 7, 2017
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  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    You want this to be a daily driver/weekend car? Then stay as close to stock as possible. There is no free lunch, you want more performance, you give up something. A cam will give you a rougher idle and may necessitate other changes. Given your intended usage, there is no better carburetor than a Quadrajet built for your engine. Fortunately, there are 2 guys right here on V8 Buick that can build you a QJ. You have Ken (techg8), and Mark (carmantx), links below. The QJ will give you lots of power, and return the best fuel mileage for the longer trips.


    http://www.v8buick.com/forumdisplay.php?172-Everyday-Performance-LLC

    http://www.quadrajetpower.com/
     
    LARRY70GS, Jan 7, 2017
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  7. Nemesis19852

    Nemesis19852 Member

    Man im taking in all this okay i have Q-jet but its not the one from the 455 i look it up and the numbers from the carb and it. came from 74 pick up truck that had a SBC 350
     
    Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017
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  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Use it as a core carburetor. Send it to one of the guys I linked for you. They will build you a QJ. They may have the correct one in stock. If not, they will build one that will be calibrated correctly. A Holley will suck a lot of fuel unless it is calibrated. Out of the box, they will return worse fuel economy than the correct QJ. A Holley will not bolt on to the stock intake without a thick adapter.
     
    LARRY70GS, Jan 7, 2017
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  9. Nemesis19852

    Nemesis19852 Member

    Thanks larry ill do that. Okay now what about the Th400 tranny just stock rebuild and the torque converter do i upgrade that.
     
    Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017
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  10. Nemesis19852

    Nemesis19852 Member

    Another thing the wiring is trash i seen a painless kit for almost 500 bucks. Hot shops gave me estimate of 2k to 3k to wire the car that alot of money on wiring.
     
    Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017
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  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Stock rebuild if necessary. The stock torque converter is fine. The only time you need to change the torque converter would be because of the cam. Higher performance cams move the power band of the engine up necessitating a change in stall speed. If your cam choice stays stock or close to it, the stock converter is best for performance, driveability, and fuel economy. A higher stall converter makes more heat and can impact economy.
     
    LARRY70GS, Jan 7, 2017
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  12. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    What does "the wiring is trash" mean exactly? I cant believe the whole car's wiring is no good. The insulation on the engine harness wires do tend to get brittle. But normally you can make repairs to it- cut the wires back in question and solder new lengths on. Afternoon job
     
    CJay, Jan 7, 2017
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  13. Nemesis19852

    Nemesis19852 Member

    Well the engine bay wires have been cut it looks like but the inside is fine just the engine bay. And i want to update the fuse box. Ill try to upload a pic.
     
    Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017
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  14. Nemesis19852

    Nemesis19852 Member

    ill try to upload a picture for u
     
    Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017
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  15. Nemesis19852

    Nemesis19852 Member

    And also the driveshaft is gone so i have fined one of those as well
     
    Nemesis19852, Jan 7, 2017
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  16. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    No reason to "update" the fuse panel, its not a house:grin:
    An engine wire harness should only be about 150/200 bucks.
    I put a new engine harness in my '71 GS a few years ago from M&H
    Only reason I did was it was original and very very brittle, and I don't like shorts or fires:laugh:
     
    Mark Demko, Jan 8, 2017
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  17. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Make sure you get one from a 69 or a 70. Then find yourself a reputable driveshaft shop to rebuild it for you or at the very least replace the bearing insulator for you.

    Man you sure picked a difficult car to work on! From what you posted so far, you might be better off finding an example in better shape. Do you realize that by the time your done rebuilding the engine, trans, rebuilding the driveshaft and whatever else the car needs, you will probably have invested many times over what the car is worth?

    68-69 Rivs are great cars, but they really don't seem to command high prices. Nice examples that are "plug and play" can be had for a reasonable cost
     
    CJay, Jan 8, 2017
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  18. carmantx

    carmantx Never Surrender

    carmantx, Jan 8, 2017
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