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66 340 Skylark w/ Autometer Oil Pressure Gauge/Sender Issue

Discussion in 'Sparky's corner' started by Ray66Skylark, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. Ray66Skylark

    Ray66Skylark Member

    Hi everybody,

    I just installed an electric Auto Meter oil pressure gauge in my Skylark along with the remote sender and I am having a bit of an odd issue.

    First, the car has the proper level of oil (just checked), the car is new-ish to me (last 6mos) and I have never tested the oil pressure before (although the idiot light never came on for what it's worth). Second, the gauge is one of three new gauges in a pod and they all share a daisy-chain pair of Ignition+ and Engine Block- and the other gauges and new tach all work fine for what it's worth.

    The issue I am having is that on start up, the needle jumps up to 25psi and stays there even when I pump the throttle- at the most, it will jump to maybe 27psi under aggressive throttle but the change is so subtle you can barely see it. Other than this, the gauge behaves the way it should meaning it turns on/off with the ignition and the needle doesn't bounce around. Now I am not a smart man, but every old car I have ever had would always jump noticeable between idle oil pressure and maybe 2500RPM pressure- I want to say it could be 20-30PSI on these other cars. It's almost as if this new gauge had some kind of sensitivity setting or something where instead of reading a range of 50-75PSI, it is only reading 25-27PSI.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks,
    Ray
     
  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    What happens to the readings when the engine has warmed up and the car has been driven? You should see a big drop off of oil pressure when the oil is as hot as it will get. That 25 psi is low for a cold engine and cold oil. It should be much higher. I would check the pressure with another gauge, maybe see if you can rent a mechanical gauge. I would not drive the car hard until I verified the pressure is sufficient. If the pressure is that low, you need to resolve that.
     
  3. Ray66Skylark

    Ray66Skylark Member

    As additional information, I called Auto Meter and the tech suggested that I pull the sending unit, clean off the teflon tape, put teflon tape only on the back half of the threads and re-install all of it. His reasoning was that maybe the teflon was causing a grounding issue and by having the first half of the threads naked, it might ground better.

    I spent my lunch break pulling the alternator and doing all that was suggested and re-installed, but same issue. One thing that I didn't tell the guy because I had forgotten about it is that I am using an adapter from what I think is 1/4" NPT at the block to 1/8" NPT on the sender nipple; I cleaned off the threads on both when I re-installed.

    Yeah, I agree on the driveability aspect. I am going to get a mechanical gauge and give it all another go to see if I can rule out the ground issue. Hopefully (!), there is only a problem with the gauge/sender and I don't really have horrible oil pressure, but its an old car that might have never been rebuilt so we'll see.

    [Edit]
    The pressure is at 25 at start and she was sitting in an insulated garage overnight at about 40deg. When I warm the engine up to 180 and drive around the block, it is at 25 and never budges.
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No problem with the adapter, everyone uses on as all the sending units and mechanical gauge lines use a 1/8 NPT. I'm thinking you have a defective gauge or sender. What happens if you ground the signal wire directly bypassing the sender? Does the gauge go full sweep?
     
  5. Ray66Skylark

    Ray66Skylark Member

    Yeah, if I put a grounded wire directly to the sender terminal, the gauge goes full sweep as soon as the ignition is on.
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    OK, so either the sender is faulty, or you have an oil pressure issue.
     
  7. Ray66Skylark

    Ray66Skylark Member

    I invested in an OTC gauge that doubles as a tranny pressure gauge kit thinking that I could use it later when trying to set up a 200r:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000R5G0DO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    The bad news is that the manual gauge gives me 27psi on fast idle after giving her about 5min to get a bit warm (not wanting to drive it now or get it really warm just yet) and if I goose the throttle a bit it ranges up to 35psi but that's it.

    I am going to start a new thread for some advice on pulling the engine and giving it a light overhaul. I don't want to go crazy because it is a 340 and I could easily rack up a bill on what parts are actually available when I might be better off with a nailhead or 455 (not for $$ but for ease of finding parts).
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Before you do that, why not check the pressure relief valve and spring. I would make sure the valve isn't stuck in it's bore and change the spring to a Stage1 spring. I believe normal oil pressure with a stock spring is 40 psi @ 2400 RPM for a SBB.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2017

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