455 cu 1970 vs 1972

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  1. eagleguy

    eagleguy 1971 Skylark Custom

    Hey guys how bad is a Stage 1 1972 455 engine compared to say a 70?
     
  2. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    Compression ratio dropped for '71. Horsepower rating system changed for '72.

    Some "real" loss of power, mostly "phony" loss of power due to the rating change.
     
  3. eagleguy

    eagleguy 1971 Skylark Custom

  4. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Stock for stock...half a sec.....so about a car length in a drag race
     
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  5. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Yeah folks see the "net" hp rating and think they must be slugs. Funny enough the net HP is a load of crap... every other damn dyno test is gross expect for the chassis dyno..
     
  6. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    Looks like a decent car if it checks out in-person. On paper, the 70 had 2 points more compression. In practice is was likely 70 had 9.5-ish compression ratio and the 72 had 8.2-ish compression ratio. You can run regular fuel in it if it hasn't been modified. The 72 Stage 1 was on par with the 71 Stage 1 since the only thing they changed was from gross to net. The engines were identical where it counts.

    Unless you are going to race it, I wouldn't worry about it. A 70 is likely more desirable but the 72 should be a good solid car, too.
     
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  7. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I've always heard 1/10th of a second is a car length in a 1/4 mile pass, so 1/2 a second is more like 5 car lengths?
     
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  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    5 cars would be like 2 sec
     
  9. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    100 mph is 146 feet per second.. a tenth would be 14.6' at that speed, which is not even front to rear bumper..
     
  10. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    10hp is roughly a 1 tenth...hard to remember what the car length correlation is ha...it may be that many cars
     
  11. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Math doesn't lie..a skylark is 17ft....so 3 cars roughly??
     
  12. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Hell a good light in 72 would put you in front of a average test and tune night guy in a 70 stage
     
  13. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Yep, at 202" long and 100 mph, a car length is 0.115 sec.

    Devon
     
  14. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    So the gap would be 3 cars....that i can see
     
  15. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    That 40ft gonna cost you an additional $30k haha
     
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  16. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Some folks would pay that for 4 inches!
     
  17. rkammer

    rkammer Gold Level Contributor

    Actually, no. At 100 MPH a car travels about 15 ft. in 1/10 of a second which is about a car length. So, in .5 seconds there's about 5 car lengths difference.
     
  18. PGSS

    PGSS Gold Level Contributor

    Was mentioned in a old article that the 1969 400 Stage 1 with 3:64 gears was about 4 car lengths ahead in the 1/4 compared to the standard 400 with 2:93's.
    So a 400 Stage 1 runs a 14,40 off the showroom to a standard 400 14.7 or 14.8
    So the .1 difference is about 1 cars length.
     
  19. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    what the 72 lacks in static compression can almost be bought back with cam timing and an increase in dynamic compression. I did this on my low comp motor and it worked well, put it into the 12's with just headers and performer intake. Rest of the block was stock '72. Got the cam from Jim and he degreed it and told me where to install it at.. it wasnt a radical cam maybe 230/240 and it was ridiculously retarded but it worked.
     
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  20. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I ran a stock 72 for a bit in a 70 skylark it was stout for a stocker....ran really well...way better than a 70 GS 455 we had few years prior...theys good ones and bad ones
     
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