350 cap screw rods

Discussion in 'Parts wanted' started by Alssb, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. Alssb

    Alssb Well-Known Member

    I would like a set of cap screw rods.
    Are there any available?
    Price?
    Thanks
     
  2. Alssb

    Alssb Well-Known Member

    Another plea

    Thanks
     
  3. BUICKRAT

    BUICKRAT Got any treats?

    What do you mean by 'cap screw rods'?
     
  4. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    It is the more desirable 350 rod that was used from 1973 up. It is stronger because it uses cap screw fasteners instead of nuts and bolts.
     
  5. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    Have you tested them?:idea2: Dave (when he was still with TA told me the earlier 350 rods were actually stronger than the cap screw if you used ARP bolts. They got a bad name because the ARP bolts were not available early on. He also stated cap screw style tend to walk at higher rpm's.):Do No:

    Bottom line, if you are that worried about the rods, fork out the cash for some top of the line...:3gears:
     
  6. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    What if you add ARP fasteners to the cap screw rods?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
  7. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    Yep I did, he said I'd be better off with earlier rod.:beers2: AT that point I figured it didn't matter, and ordered the arp bolts for my original rods.:cool:
     
  8. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    There is a reason why everyone who is serious about the 350 uses capscrew rods.
    Darryl R. did the reasearch on the 350 rods way back and found that the capscrew rods were good within limits and the 68-72 rods were week:





    My favorite are the light forged Hershe rods, I know they will hold the roughly 1000 hp I plan to make.

    http://www.buickperformancegroup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5205&highlight=forged+350+rods


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    There is another option for the 350 and that is the SBC eagle H beam rods in 6.300 with custom pistons. This is the cheepest way to build a strong light rod, piston combo for a 350:

    Engine builder Brian Leibee used an off the shelf Eagle rod at 6.300 long and had Ross make custom pistons for the application, after slight machining this combo has been track proven reliable and the cheepest option so far for forged piston and rods combo:The rod used for the Buick 350 is the CRS6300SLW

    http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/produ...177&CtgID=8085

    Just spoke to Troys Engine builder Brian Leibee and he said that it would be no problem to do another setup like this for someone. The rods are VERY slightly narrowed, bearing tang moved and stock buick 350 bearings are used, the piston is custom made anyways so no problem to go with the SBC pin diameter.

    Info on the pistons again:
    The piston builder Ross Racing Pistons. Job card # off the order sheet was 115793. Should help speed the process of ordering. Waited about 5 weeks. Pistons are a true flat top with 4 cc valve reliefs. Engine builder Brian Leibee with Leibee Precision Machine,Phone# 307-362-5049. Tell him Troy sent ya hill take care of ya.

    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=139310&highlight=casper
     
  9. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Well Jim B proved that that combo is good to over 550 hp NA, BUT Darryl R has the dyno proof of when they go and it is about 600 hp and 6200 rpms.

    I do think that the turbo and blower engines are not quite as hard on the parts as the NA engines at the same hp level.
     
  10. Dan Healey

    Dan Healey Well-Known Member

    Sure, take Darryl's advice over Dave's... HAVE YOU EVER MET DARRYL?:shock: I have met both, like them both. I went Dave (and I assume TA). I listen to guy's with dyno's.:laugh: :3gears:

    Take it the small block tech...
     
  11. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    I assume you think Buick was Stupid to quit using the early rods too huh?:bla:
     
  12. Alssb

    Alssb Well-Known Member

  13. ubushaus

    ubushaus Gold Level Contributor

    What type and size socket do you use to remove factory cap screws? I was tearing down the bottom end of my '72 block this afternoon, and the rods appeared to have cap screws (sorry, no pics). I have been google searching eg: "cap screw socket" and have come up with nothing.
     

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