3.08s and 200r4

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by Nothingface5384, Oct 2, 2009.

  1. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

    just wondering if these will be ok with a 28" tire?

    i know normally it'd wouldnt be enough for an n/a car

    but its the setup I thought would still do well behind a 650-700hp and matching torque twinturbo build

    i had 3.42s beforehand and downsized to 3.08s so it'd be less likly to break loose the tires on the streets while low enough not to lug in engine in O/D
     
  2. Snowbound

    Snowbound Well-Known Member

    Unless you are prepared to spend a ton of money building your 200r4 to stand up to that power level, I would use a T-400.

    I've browsed through the Turbo Regal forums enough researching my 200r4 swap to realize they can become a money pit if pushed too hard.

    Why spend $4000 in a trans when a $1k T-400 will outlast it and work nicely with that gear ratio. 3k buys a lot of fuel!

    Brian
     
  3. RoadDawg

    RoadDawg Well-Known Member

    Currently, I'm running a 200R4 behind a stock 350 with 2.52's. I have a set of 3.73's but just haven't gotten around to having them put in.
     
  4. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    4k is a bit inflated. it costs a bit more for a 200, but not 4x. he can build one for about 1500 that will live a long happy life.
     
  5. Nothingface5384

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    janis transmissions quoated me 1800 with my core...not sure if it included torque converter but definatly everything else
     
  6. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I'm thinking that with the .67:1 overdrive and 28" tire the 3.08:1 rear will be too low. Anyone else? What tire height and rear axle ratios did the GN use?

    Devon
     
  7. Nothingface5384

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    26.6? w/ 3.42s and corperate 8.5

    i was thinking 3.23 since it its a v8 compared to a v6

    youre probalby right about it being too low
    it'd probably put me at a 2.10/2.20ish ratio in 0/D effective ration in third would be 2.94
     
  8. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    He probably will only use the OD at highway speeds. at 45 mph, it would be too high for sure. unless he had a small cam.
     
  9. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    I was thinking he'd probably have to do the same.

    Devon
     
  10. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    3.08 X .67 = 2.06. With a 28" tire, 60MPH will be 336/28 X 2.06 X 60 = 1483 RPM

    The GN's had I think, a P215/65R-15 which was 26" tall. 3.42 rear X .67 = 2.29

    60 MPH would be 336/26 X 2.29 X 60 = 1775 RPM
     
  11. bobc455

    bobc455 Well-Known Member

    I have a 2.56 rearend, and I do a lot of highway driving (about 7500 miles so far this year). Sometimes I think that an OD with a lockup would be a nice thing to bring the revs way down.

    I wouldn't even consider going that tall without a lockup convertor, the slippage would heat your trans up and kill it quickly.

    And make sure your engine works well at such a low RPM (cam design, etc.). Pulling a moderate load at only 1500 RPM is not typical for older most motors.

    -Bob C.
     
  12. Nothingface5384

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    so 3.42s would put me at 1648 rpms at 60
    3.23s would put me at 1555rpms

    so i probably should have kept my 3.42s
    i exchanged them as i was thinking an st400 would be more reliable for the price and more fun.

    ****s still up in the air:Dou:
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member



    I think you are getting WAY ahead of yourself. Twin Turbo 650-700 HP motor? Build that beast first, get it running right, then gear it accordingly.
     
  14. Nothingface5384

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    that's the built motor, i'll just be running a stock 73 motor with 8psi till i get i get couple top end parts(chevy roller rockers, cam, and big valves) for the built motor along with cash for porting heads and getting it put together
     
  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    Oh OK, stock motor should be OK. You just need to get the timing right with the boost.
     
  16. Nothingface5384

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    ah, i think i'll just stick with my th350 and ad my trans go shift kit with the stock twinturbo combo aand just go with an st400 like planned before by jim weise for my built motor...if i still feel the need for an o/d i'll just get a gearsvender later down the line (.75 0/d) cant be too bad if caprices had .70 o/d with 3.08s
    that'd put me at 1673 rpms
     

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